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Z1-R rear brake hose length & fitting - HELP

#1 PostAuthor: pertonpc » Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:34 pm

My Z1-R came with modern brake lines and I want the standard look -

I have just done a test fit on my new rear brake hose.
I have checked which way the unions go against the Z1-R sales brochure so I think they are the right way round ??

The only way I can get it to join up is to route it like this -

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Can anyone with an original Z1-R rear hose fitted tell me if this looks correct or send me a pic of the entire hose run so I can see where I am out.

Would appreciate the measurement of rubber hose showing between the two unions if anyone has an original they can check. This one is the PMC part listed for Z1-R 1978 but I think it looks a little long on the bike.

I know I need the two rubber grommets for the swinging arm hooks - I had hoped they would come with the hose but no such luck :cry: :cry:

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#2 PostAuthor: z1bman » Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:01 pm

57cm according to this genuine hose on e bay


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kawasaki-KZ10 ... 1295412950

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#3 PostAuthor: pertonpc » Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:58 pm

Thanks Paul

My bike is Z1-R D1 1978 so the brake hose is 43059-1006

The 1046 in the eBay ad is for the later D3 1980 model

Not sure why they changed - perhaps D3 has different rear master cylinder ??

Any how I need measurement off a D1 or 1006 hose to be sure.

Or someone to tell me that the two hoses are the same length ??

This pic is from the Z1-R sales brochure -

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#4 PostAuthor: z1bman » Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:38 pm

yes your rite mark d3 hose is bolted to the top of the master cylinder

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#5 PostAuthor: compo z1r » Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:53 pm

d1 hose is 42 cm or 420mm to u :wink: + banjo's

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#6 PostAuthor: pertonpc » Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:06 pm

Thanks Neil,

So it looks like the one in the eBay advert could be for a D1 - as it has a full length spring.

I will drop mine off tomorrow and get it measured properly.
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#7 PostAuthor: DavidZ1R » Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:14 pm

Kin ell Neil beat me to it
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#8 PostAuthor: pertonpc » Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:41 pm

Thanks David,

Could you just check length of rubber hose visible between unions and see how close you are to Compo's 420 mm please ??

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#9 PostAuthor: compo z1r » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:49 pm

pertonpc wrote:Thanks Neil,

So it looks like the one in the eBay advert could be for a D1 - as it has a full length spring.

I will drop mine off tomorrow and get it measured properly.


not at 570mm its from summit else :shock:
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#10 PostAuthor: pertonpc » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:42 pm

I got my new hose off and measured visible hose between unions.
I got 480 mm
I think that means mine's bigger than Compo's :oops: :oops:

It's interesting that neither of the D1s in the pics sent in have the hose looping below the bottom of the torque arm linkage like the Z1-R brochure picture.

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#11 PostAuthor: z1bman » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:14 pm

don't no whether this is relevant but the pmc site shows a picture of the d3 & they would be about 50mm longer as the hose fitting is fitted to the top of the master cylinder ?
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#12 PostAuthor: compo z1r » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:18 pm

pertonpc wrote:I got my new hose off and measured visible hose between unions.
I got 480 mm
I think that means mine's bigger than Compo's :oops: :oops:

It's interesting that neither of the D1s in the pics sent in have the hose looping below the bottom of the torque arm linkage like the Z1-R brochure picture.

Thanks for all the help people

from Mark


mark just had a look through tony sculpher's book on the z1r and the dealer pic shows it above the linkage sorry to b a pain :wink:
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#13 PostAuthor: pertonpc » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:39 pm

Cheers Neil
I will check my Tony book too, I'm pretty sure PMC listed different nos. for the D1 and D3 rear hose but I need to check now - and make sure I got sent the right one.

Mine would be long enough to go to the top of the master cylinder - which makes it sound like a D3 hose.

How long is your D3 hose between unions ?? if it is 48cm like mine then that would be interesting.

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