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#16 PostAuthor: paul doran » Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:21 pm

Pigford wrote:Cheers Kev........ May well investigate this further :P be good to learn a new skill :wink:


yes it would given You dont have any skills at present :lool :lool :lool
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#17 PostAuthor: sid123 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:22 pm

reynolds 531 tubing is used by cycle frame builders - it can be weakend by overheating it OR USING INCORREDT METHODS - try finding a cycle frame builder in your area - thye should be able to braze them on without affecting frame integrity

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#18 PostAuthor: Pigford » Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:32 pm

My lads a plumber - and he's got an spare torch with a new yellow Mapp cylinder.......... :twisted:

But may have to play safe and err on the side of caution ..........cheers Sid.
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#19 PostAuthor: z1bman » Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:35 pm

yes pigford that should do the job. my son has his own tool design + engineering business + he uses the very same piece of kit for brazing tungsten carbide tips to 20mm thick steel blades for mixing ceramics

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#20 PostAuthor: zed1015 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:49 pm

Frame is made of reynolds 531 tubing and HAS to be Bronze welded (braze)
DON'T weld as the excessive heat needed to melt the metal will make it brittle and it will crack under load.

P.s silver soldering is not the same as Brazing and does not use the same filler material.
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#21 PostAuthor: Pigford » Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:51 pm

Cheers Rob :wink: Hows your project doing you old shagger :?:
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#22 PostAuthor: zed1015 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:02 pm

If you were closer i could Braze your frame with the oxy/acet.

As for my latest project, It's currently on hold while i rebuild the Drouin's motor as a result of the the little mishap :( i hinted at in my OSP log-in prob Pm's .

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#23 PostAuthor: Pigford » Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:04 pm

Oh, forgot about that - memory like a bleedin' goldfish :roll:

Thats a real p*ss*r mate :??
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#24 PostAuthor: zed1015 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:11 pm

No prob's.
Nearly back together now.
New crank, Different head, just waiting for Debbens to send head gasket and it'll all good as new (and slightly improved :wink: )

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#25 PostAuthor: Ginger Bear » Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:47 am

Piggy,

Might be worth having a word with Nick at 'Griffs'. I think he could probably help you out, or poss speak to Mikey with regard to the bike frame peep's he does stuff for. :idea:
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#26 PostAuthor: Rich » Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:39 pm

zed1015 wrote:Frame is made of reynolds 531 tubing and HAS to be Bronze welded (braze)
DON'T weld as the excessive heat needed to melt the metal will make it brittle and it will crack under load.

P.s silver soldering is not the same as Brazing and does not use the same filler material.


correct - send it to someone who knows what they are doing.
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#27 PostAuthor: PJ » Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:01 pm

Rich wrote:
zed1015 wrote:Frame is made of reynolds 531 tubing and HAS to be Bronze welded (braze)
DON'T weld as the excessive heat needed to melt the metal will make it brittle and it will crack under load.

P.s silver soldering is not the same as Brazing and does not use the same filler material.


correct - send it to someone who knows what they are doing.


I agree, pay for it to be done properly
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#28 PostAuthor: Pigford » Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:53 pm

Cheers dudes...... Gonna take it to the old boy who did my Mk.II fuel tap re-location :wink:
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#29 PostAuthor: davy thomson » Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:02 pm

Mark its best to use an oxy-acetylene torch with a small number weld nozzle for better control and use flux impregnated rods,your local bodyshop should have them.its easy to do just get a few test pieces till you master it. :)
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