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Z1 Gear-box Output shaft (Sprocket Shaft)

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Z1 Gear-box Output shaft (Sprocket Shaft)

#1 PostAuthor: Garn 1 » Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:10 am

Help is urgently required. I've done this job before a couple of years ago. What I'm doing is changing the gearbox shaft and keeping the gears!

This is the shaft with the three - 3/16 balls.
How do I get those balls out... I have an idea I used to spin it?
Need to fix this this week-end.

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#2 PostAuthor: gbh » Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:25 am

Once all the circlips, thrust washers and cogs are removed isn't the hole through which the balls were installed visible? I think this is the case.......though I could be wrong.

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#3 PostAuthor: Garn 1 » Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:20 pm

Thanks, for the reply George, I've looked at that hole and it does look as so it's part of the solution. However, I seem to remember just spinning the shaft allowing the balls to locate somewhere and "presto" the gear just slid off. All the manuals are vague in this area. One manual (Clymer~ Kawasaki Z1 early ed) says "Pull off 4th rear, turning the shaft as necessary to align the 3 steel balls".

Here's something... (Clymer ~ Kawasaki 1973-1980)
"Pull off 4th gear. To remove the gear, spin the shaft in a vertical position, holding onto 3rd gear. Pull the 4th gear up and off the shaft".

Maybe I should wash in petrol to remove any grease that may be hindering the balls from moving?

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#4 PostAuthor: gbh » Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:48 am

Perhaps you're right, best give it a good wash as a stuck ball bearing may be preventing the gear from freely sliding from the shaft.
I can't say I ever had a problem disassembling but these bikes are getting older now and problems arise that never used to.

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#5 PostAuthor: Garn 1 » Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:07 am

Thanks for making me persist with this job.
I washed the muck out with petrol, gave it a spin and out she came.
Thanks again.... Incidently, those 3/16" dia holes are there so that the manufacture can drill thru to the other side to form a neat pocket for the ball which retreats to it when the gear is rotating.

Problem solved!
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#6 PostAuthor: popsA1 » Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:55 am

I guess you've done it now but here are the pages from my z1000 workshop manual.
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Hope this helps.
A2 1979-80. A1 1980-now

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#7 PostAuthor: Garn 1 » Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:41 pm

PopsA1, You may have thought your contribution to my problem was too late.... It wasn't!
I read on the last page of your workshop manual, "Output Shaft Assembly Notes ~ Item 4", not to use grease on the balls when assembling. I had used grease on one ball, relying on gravity (in a horizomtal position) for the other two. I have since washed it out. Also, though not relevant this time, was Item 5, which talks about the two thincknesses of washers used in this assembly.


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#8 PostAuthor: popsA1 » Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:52 pm

These pages are from the Service Manual published by Kawasaki in 1977 and covering the A1, A2 and D1 models.
If anyone would like a specific section just PM me.
A2 1979-80. A1 1980-now


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