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#61 PostAuthor: Pigford » Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:41 pm

Rich, started with 17.5 pilots... went to 32.5 :?? now at 25's :|

The compression is just too low..... Tonite I warmed the engine well....
then squirted some GTX in the plug holes & the compression reading went up about 20 psi...
#1,2,& 3 cylinders @ 120/125 and # 4 @ 105 :evil: :oops:
Steve Romeo reckons all it'll need is rings (fingers crossed) so will strip it down in the next few weeks & have a good look....
Will check valve clearances before taking top end off as its got under-bucket shims :!:
I'll be chuffed if it only needs rings & a hone :wink:
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#62 PostAuthor: Monk » Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:16 pm

Looks a nice bike that Piggy, and I would think that Mr Debben and Mr Bateman had half a clue what they were doing all those years ago !

Buy the way, they are my favorite bickys but I would prefer the origional rather than the orange.
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#63 PostAuthor: Pigford » Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:41 pm

Been out in the garage/garden with the bike.... decided to have a look at the barrels & bits...

Took Dyna coils off, for more room... Cam cover off all sweet & dandy :wink:

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Good... Megacycle cams & adjustable srpockets..... Best do clearances whilst at this stage... coz they are under bucket doofers....

Ranged between 8 thou and 1 thou :evil: so needs some attention, hopefully just shim swapping :??

Notes & photo's of cams as they could be a pig to reset without data :shock: All seems OK, no bad scores/marks....

Head off OK..... gasket not stuck too bad... :| Hmmmmmmmmmm :|

That head gasket look a standard size... check and it is :evil: Quick measure of bore... 72 and a bit mm :!: Should be 78 for a 1260cc :cry:
Barrels off next....... Bores look clean & tidy, no ridges or marks... still see honing pattern :??

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The cases don't look particualrly "bored out" :evil: Measured the round bit that the barrels sit in.... 84 mm diameter :?? Is this standard :?:

SO, this bike was not what is was sold as :cry: :cry: :cry:

Carbs were 34 RFS, not 38's.... Pistons only 72mm not 78mm :evil:

Anyone know what the casing mouth size is std :?: :?: :?: before I contact seller :roll:
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#64 PostAuthor: Steve R » Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:55 pm

Hi Piggy.

I can tell you for absoloute sure that 72 mm bore is 1075. as I have a set of barrels on my desk at the moment that have been bored for a wiseco 1075 kit by SEP engineering and they are 72mm.
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#65 PostAuthor: Steve R » Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:57 pm

Oh yeah and my spelling is even worse than usual cos I have just been out drinking with my 19 year old nephew, its 10 pm and I am slaughtered. :twisted:
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#66 PostAuthor: ollie » Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:29 am

Hi Mark ,yep steves right 72 is 1075 ,73 is 1105,your crankcases have been widened a bit .
Sorry mate ,see what the seller has to say Mark,could be a swapped motor?
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#67 PostAuthor: paul doran » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:13 pm

hope you were'nt sold a Pup Mark
way too many Zeds
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#68 PostAuthor: Pigford » Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:28 pm

It appears only the barrels & pistons have been changed.... :??

The head & bottom end seem to be as they should be :|

Tried contacting BOB LEIPER - vendor - but no response... surprise surprise :roll:

Tracked down a new 75mm Wiseco kit for £300... so just need the 1089 barrels...... Paully :?: :wink:
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#69 PostAuthor: Buckle » Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:58 pm

Blimey :!: Seems to be the season for dodgy engines........

Hopefully someone will come up with the goods for you Mr Pigford.
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#70 PostAuthor: Pigford » Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:53 pm

Right then...

I have sorted out the barrels & pistons..... a bit OTT actually....

Got some nice new Wiseco's 1170 / 75mm (good deal & service from Gremlin Racing) and checked them out at work...

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They all weighed out at 314.5g (piston & gudgeon pin) and look so pretty :P kit comes with base & head gasket set too :wink: Just need to suss out rebore :??

I have some 1089 barrels now.... :lol: I also have another set of 1170 & barrels ready to roll from Romeo :shock: Gonna sort out best lot & shift the rest......... OFFERS :?:

Been busy on eBay too......

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These are early gixxer 11 USD forks so a good 1" longer than modern stuff :wink: The billet yokes have kwik release inserts and all I need to do is fit a Z1000 stem...... Like this one that I squished out in the concrete cube crusher today :twisted:

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Anuvver eBay buy...........
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#71 PostAuthor: Pigford » Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:22 pm

Update...

The fork purchase fell thru...... Geezer said the bottom collar split when he got his stem removed, and he's gonna get anuvver one made up :|
I think he has actually pulled out of the sale.... :evil:
He removed them from eBay for a private deal with me, so no come back.... Sh*t happens :roll:

Been in the garage this weekend and now got the engine out :P
The lower front mounting bolt was a b*****d to remove :evil:
Took a good 1/2 hour, but it finally circum to my big hammer :??

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I have taken my std 1089cc barrels to be rebored & they should be done in a few days....


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I'm gonna roughly reassemble the engine & casings & seal all the 'gaps & holes' & get the engine blasted...... :shock:

Then its a complete strip down... for new cam chain, check internals... & see if crank is actually welded :|
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#72 PostAuthor: Rich » Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:51 pm

Where's them shiney spanners gone ??? Have you sold them to finance the rebuild :shock:
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#73 PostAuthor: Pigford » Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:30 pm

Rich, got them safe & sound in the dining room, cutlery drawer :wink:

They are for "special occasions" only :twisted:
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#74 PostAuthor: Rich » Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:22 pm

You mean you are allowed to do your other bike in the dining room :envy
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#75 PostAuthor: london calling » Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:29 pm

They're in the Laundry with Piggy's special tool,THE IRON & IRONING BOARD :lol:
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