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bubbles on tailpiece?

#1 PostAuthor: justin taylor » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:42 pm

Help,ive just pulled the Z1B out of the garage and ive noticed some bubbles appearing on the tail piece!They werent there a couple of weeks ago,i presume its water ingress.Am i right?My garage is rather damp but its only on the tailpiece.Who is the right spray company to go for and anyone any idea of the cost?Thanks lads.

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#2 PostAuthor: floydsz1 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:15 pm

Hi Justin,
you can try my mate. He painted my z1b a few years ago and did my z1000 lawson rep (modern). He used to have a z1 (73) a while back. he's called "mally". I always use him for all my paintwork. Iv'e seen loads of his work and its excellent. If you do Tell him kinny sent you.
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#3 PostAuthor: MaineKZ » Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:15 pm

Hi Justin

Must meet up when the floods subside!
I've never heard of the original lacquer lifting when exposed to moisture. Might suggest your tailpiece has been blown over with new lacquer at some point and obviously that is susceptible to moisture. It's not going to be feasible to try and remove just the lacquer finish without damaging the candy (ie the coloured lacquer beneath) so you'll need to repray from scratch. Not as bad as it sounds though. The graphics are available from Geoff Ward at Sunrise Graphics, I'd suggest JBS in Yeovil for the spray. Take the tank to them for colour matching.
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#4 PostAuthor: justin taylor » Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:08 pm

Hello Chris,my bike has had a Dream Machine paint job about 8 years ago i think ,so what you say is probably spot on.As soon as we get some reasonable weather ill pop down for a chat.JT

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#5 PostAuthor: london calling » Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:14 pm

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#6 PostAuthor: Pigford » Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:02 pm

Jack, can he just 'knock them out' or does he need a pattern to work to :?:
Are they iron on :roll:
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#7 PostAuthor: bedlow1 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:14 pm

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#8 PostAuthor: Steve R » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:58 pm

If they are very small bubbles its micro blistering, very common on fibre glass cars such as old lotus elans. Its water in the paint that has frozen, expanded and pushed up the paint, on cars the water can be in the fibre glass itself so you can strip it repaint it and it still comes back, which is why the best lotus painters bake the car at a low temperature in an oven for a couple of days before they paint it to get rid of any moisture.
With a plastic tail piece I do not think it will be in the plastic, but in the paint, two good ways to get water in the paint are not to use a proper vapour trap on the airline or to paint primer then leave it around a while before painting the paint coat, primer is porous and will soak up moisture.

When i store mine in winter i cover it with a bike cover and put a 180 watt green house heater (which is screwed to a piece of ply with tin foil on it ) under the bike thats enough to keep all the condensation off the alloy and protect the paint from any chance of microblistering.

I think that there is a chance of getting rid of small areas of microblistering using infra red heat( I am reaching back into the depths of my memory here!) , but I am not sure, it may be worth contacting a painter that specialises in painting glass fibre cars and asking about this.


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