Electrics

[Is Vic There]

Can anyone point me in the direction of a good website that sells electrical wire, connectors and all the other bits and bobs I would need to make a full loom.

Also has anyone had any experience with the motogadget products and if so how did they find them?

And the last one is does anyone have any website on electrics or building electric harnesses like an idiots guide! I have bought a large diagram which will help me (bit of a map) and have been reading up and bought some tools but still can't get the flux capacitor working right!

Thanks in advance!

[chrisu]

lots of us use vehicleproducts.co.uk but I guess the shipping might be a tad expensive.

[Is Vic There]

Thanks Chris,

Saved that in my favourites, will look at it and make a list.

Would you go for insulated or non insulated connectors? Just that there are a few trains of thought on this, also what crimping tools would people go for remember I am a novice and all this is new to me!

[chrisu]

These guys have the original style connectors and the right crimping tool

[Pigford]

Thanks Chris,

Saved that in my favourites, will look at it and make a list.

Would you go for insulated or non insulated connectors? Just that there are a few trains of thought on this, also what crimping tools would people go for remember I am a novice and all this is new to me!

Go for NON-insulated - but make sure you get all the correct (separate) sheaths

[tlc]

Rather than make a loom from scratch I would suggest modifying an existing one.
A modern loom say from a large capacity ZX has much neater connector blocks than the older style we are used to and for which the relevant terminals are available from VWP.
Also modern thin wall wire is much easier to work with.

I was surprised both how easy this process was but also how expensive.

[KWACKERZ1]

Ian
I made the loom for the Harris its easy enough its just like joining the dots.
(Mind you I was a trained Marconi engineer)
I actually made three one for charging one for lights and one ignition, that way I can remove the ones not in use. As its a track bike, i currently don't need lights.

I fed them all from a 4 way fuse box fed directly of a 12v feed (via an ignition switch)

Seriously though. I would make your own, modifying a loom is more confusing.

But it is expensive, my advice is,
buy the correct (ratchet ) type crimp tools
use non insulated crimps (use the correct sheaths)
and once crimped solder them. this way you have a good mechanical and electrical connection.
Get plenty of heat shrink.

Don't ever use those blue/red/yellow insulated cheap car shop crimps they are appalling.

Also when you mess one up cut it off and remake it.
Always leave your wires with a touch extra so they are not tight and you have the option to remake as well.

Practical Sportsbikes have just run some make your own loom articles might be reassuring to you to read those, if you can get back copies.

[chuckaspear]

Got a motogadget m unit on my modified zed nice bit of kit,works well had no problems but do install a fuse on the input, I found their website useful, its got wiring diagrams etc also cable kits but I have found vehicle wiring products very good

[Is Vic There]

Thanks very much lads appreciate the replies, going to mull things over and go from there. Going to start on the brakes first as I understand them!
I am going to order a crimping tool and some connectors and practice crimping and soldering!

[weaver]

I would advise getting a loom professionally done,and concentrate your time on other stuff you are confident with,bikes looking great by the way

[ADE]

I made mine as above with a six way fuse box from vehicle wiring products.Not brilliant at electrics but found it quite easy.Ignition to the fuse box,then everything else to the fuse box.I run an earth for each fuse so if there is a problem it is easier to find.The fuse holder also lights up if the fuse blows.I also used a Wassel reg rectifierCost me less than £100 for everything.I soldered as many joints as possible and used heat shrink.
Cheers Ade

[ADE]

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[martinz1000r]

I am facing the same challenge as you, also on a Magnum 2. Wiring is not complicated if you break a wiring diagram down in to sub-sections. Think charging, starting/ignition, lights etc and it will make a mess of colours much easier to follow. Remember that standard looms will contain side stand cut off, auxiliary power feeds that aren't used and all sorts of bits you dont need.

I bought a Motogadget unit for my Moto Martin but ended up not using it. In principle it should make life very simple but we thought it actually wasted on what should be a simple loom on a very basic bike.

As said by others invest in decent tools, practice your soldering and be patient. There are firms out there that will make custom looms for you (Ferret over here) but money asked is frightening.

[Mark Tiller]

http://www.bikeexif.com/motorcycle-wiring

[Taffus]

Thanks very much lads appreciate the replies, going to mull things over and go from there. Going to start on the brakes first as I understand them!
I am going to order a crimping tool and some connectors and practice crimping and soldering!

That's well scary a bloody liney trying work in the fairy circle!