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Arcing contact breaker

#1 PostAuthor: sprint » Mon May 11, 2015 5:33 pm

Following a rebuild I was checking the CB gap and found that the 1 & 4 one was pitted with a hole on one face and a 'spike' on the other face. Dressed both faces down but on starting up the C/B is arcing all the time.

Is this likely to be due to a failed condenser or some other cause? 2 & 3 C/B is OK but you still get the odd spark across the faces.

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Condensers

#2 PostAuthor: Chris Riv » Mon May 11, 2015 6:09 pm

It sounds like condenser but you could try swapping the condenser wires over to see if the other set of points arcs instead.

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Re: Condensers

#3 PostAuthor: sprint » Mon May 11, 2015 6:13 pm

Chris Riv wrote:It sounds like condenser but you could try swapping the condenser wires over to see if the other set of points arcs instead.


Good idea, I'll try that.

I guess the only full time solution is to fit electronic ignition?

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#4 PostAuthor: zed1015 » Mon May 11, 2015 6:16 pm

Yes! most likely a condenser.
Fit a Dyna 'S' and you'll never have to touch it again.

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#5 PostAuthor: sprint » Mon May 11, 2015 7:16 pm

zed1015 wrote:Yes! most likely a condenser.
Fit a Dyna 'S' and you'll never have to touch it again.


Have heard that there are/can be problems with the Dyna's being a bit power hungry due to their long dwell angle and as a result can leave the battery not getting enough and being drained? Is that correct?

Have had a look and there does not seem to be a separate amp box with the Dyna's are they encapsulated into the pick up sensors?

£90 in US £130 UK!!!!!!!!!!!

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#6 PostAuthor: chrisu » Mon May 11, 2015 7:42 pm

No.

They're fine. All my Zs have them

Don't like over voltage though

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#7 PostAuthor: ZedHead » Mon May 11, 2015 7:49 pm

I replaced my Boyer with Dyna S never ran better.

Let me know if you need a condenser or Dyna S, i can supply either.

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#8 PostAuthor: zed1015 » Mon May 11, 2015 10:15 pm

sprint wrote:
zed1015 wrote:Yes! most likely a condenser.
Fit a Dyna 'S' and you'll never have to touch it again.


Have heard that there are/can be problems with the Dyna's being a bit power hungry due to their long dwell angle and as a result can leave the battery not getting enough and being drained? Is that correct?

Have had a look and there does not seem to be a separate amp box with the Dyna's are they encapsulated into the pick up sensors?

£90 in US £130 UK!!!!!!!!!!!


Never had any problems with them.
Have had the same Dyna AND battery on my Z1R for 17 years and I use it almost every day.
Have got Dyna's on all my Zeds.

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#9 PostAuthor: Jay1969 » Tue May 12, 2015 1:24 am

sprint wrote:
zed1015 wrote:Yes! most likely a condenser.
Fit a Dyna 'S' and you'll never have to touch it again.


Have heard that there are/can be problems with the Dyna's being a bit power hungry due to their long dwell angle and as a result can leave the battery not getting enough and being drained? Is that correct?

Have had a look and there does not seem to be a separate amp box with the Dyna's are they encapsulated into the pick up sensors?

£90 in US £130 UK!!!!!!!!!!!


If you're worried about Dyna S "being a bit power hungry", battery supply direct to coils via relay (wiredgeorge mod)
is noticeably an improvement and recommended for full fat spark. I agree with others, Dyna S not normally a problem.

Click on diagram below to wiredgeorge's website...

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~Jay.


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