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Titanium Bolts..... Are they strong enough

#1 PostAuthor: Ginger Bear » Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:38 pm

To use in suspension linkages :?

Been looking at replacing the bolts in the monoshock linkage on my current project & came across these. :shock: :shock: ......

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M12-TITANIUM- ... 418dcb9b41

Question is, are they up to the job, or are they more likely to fail (than steel) when I sit me fat ass on the bike :? :? :ek :ek
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#2 PostAuthor: jimmock » Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:35 pm

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They use titanium bolts for holding on 747 engines.

I'd say they are stronger than steel, do NOT rust and are as light as fukc.
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#3 PostAuthor: jimmock » Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:37 pm

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#4 PostAuthor: jimmock » Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:39 pm



Apparently "special" titanium to be used to replace high tensile steel applications?
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#5 PostAuthor: garyd » Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:47 pm

My old man used to be an aircraft handler at Heathrow.

The 2 meter bars from the tug to a Jumbo front wheel was made of titanium as no other metal could handle the streatching forces.

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#6 PostAuthor: jimmock » Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:51 pm

garyd wrote:My old man used to be an aircraft handler at Heathrow.

The 2 meter bars from the tug to a Jumbo front wheel was made of titanium as no other metal could handle the streatching forces.


The lack of weight for manual handling too I'd say.
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#7 PostAuthor: Mark Stratton » Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:58 pm

I thought I saw something on the Probolt website that titanium is not suitable for certain applications and tensile strength is affected but I'm using my phone so can't bloody find it now. It might be something to do with heat.

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#8 PostAuthor: Farmer » Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:09 pm

After wrecking two silver wedding rings I`ve now got a Titanium one, can`t seem to break it................or lose the wife either ! :lol:
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#9 PostAuthor: ADRIAN H » Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:12 pm

Appears to be quite a few different grades / strengths of titanium.

http://www.supraalloys.com/titanium-grades.php
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#10 PostAuthor: jimmock » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:25 pm

Farmer wrote:After wrecking two silver wedding rings I`ve now got a Titanium one, can`t seem to break it................or lose the wife either ! :lol:


I can give you advice on losing the wife!!! :(h0p :rul :dead2 :dead
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#11 PostAuthor: Farmer » Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:24 pm

After a stiff talking to before xmas she has calmed down, but I will keep you in mind :)
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#12 PostAuthor: jimmock » Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:53 pm

Farmer wrote:After a stiff talking to before xmas she has calmed down, but I will keep you in mind :)


What exactly do you mean by "stiff" ???
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#13 PostAuthor: Farmer » Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:19 pm

wash your mouth out with soap Jimmock :shock:
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#14 PostAuthor: scott » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:00 am

tensile strength steel= 800Mpascals (M=Mega)
tensile strength 6AL-4V=900Mpascals
yield strength steel= 640Mpascals
yield strength 6AL-4V= 830Mpascals

Titanium will always be stronger, especially tensile (stretch test) compared to steel, however titanium is more susceptical to shock compared to steel. Because the bolt you are using is not under violent shocks it is safe to say that the titanium you have chosen is safe to use......this pm will not stand up in a court of law though

Aerospace grade 6AL-4V and any other aerospace graded titanium is no better than normal 6AL-4V. The difference between them is traceable paperwork with respect to the tests that are conducted on manufacturing each batch of said grade titanium. In short, all aerospace grade titanium is fully traceable from it's supplier through to its testing. Normal non aero grade does not have to be so traceable. If an aircraft drops out of the sky....they want to know why and therefore everything must be traceable. If a car crashes... no one gives a fuck.

So, if anyone offers you aero grade titanium remember that it is no better than normal titanium of the same grade ( it is no stronger than normal non aero grade) but will be more expensive due to the traceable tests that are conducted on each batch......you are helping to recover their costs of testing buy paying more.

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#15 PostAuthor: kev edwards » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:31 am

I used to use a lot of titanium when in the plating industry and to be honest apart from being light it is not all that great, quick wearing, cracking, and erosion were problems I encountered went back to using stainless parts where ever possible, for suspension linkages I would go for the proper high tensile bolts.


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