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Starter Relay

#1 PostAuthor: HowieD » Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:58 am

Hello,

does anyone know the Current Draw of a Z1-R Starter Motor? I'm looking for a more compact replacement Relay or use the built in one in an M-Unit (40A).

Mine is all painted so can't see any markings on it.

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#2 PostAuthor: z1bman » Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:29 pm

why are you looking for a more compact relay. even the most modern relays are as big in dimensions as the z1r?

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#3 PostAuthor: HowieD » Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:45 pm

I don't wish to replace the Standard Kawasaki one as such but this thing shown below has a built in Starter relay which can take up to 30A and if the Starter Draw is less than that - well, bye bye relay.

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These are just some random pics from the www - real pics when I receive it and fit it.

see here for more details of Horace:
http://z1ownersclub.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3841

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#4 PostAuthor: z1bman » Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:00 pm

i am sure i have seen this set up on a previous post . have a look on the project's index. personally i would think this is more than enough to do the job you are looking for

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#5 PostAuthor: HowieD » Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:03 am

Aye this is where I first heard about them:

http://z1ownersclub.co.uk/forum/viewtop ... motogadget

a bit of w3 research and one is going by DHL as we speak.


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#6 PostAuthor: Rich » Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:22 am

I would say 30A wouldn't be big enough, You need to check the CCA of your battery, my Yuasa is 230A CCA, I use a Fireblade starter relay, small, built in fuse, rubber mounting and cheap from autojumbles :D
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#7 PostAuthor: z1bman » Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:38 pm

are you sure that this unit has a built in relay for the starter? i have looked at various wiring diagrams for this + it shows a separate relay if you expand the photo of the Suzuki that the unit is fitted to you will see the the starter wires are not connected to the unit

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#8 PostAuthor: HowieD » Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:49 am

Hi,

I was looking to before I bought it but this diagram out of the manual shows some options:

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also recommended SWG sizes & Current limits:
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It has overload protection built in so I'll try it and see. Failing that I get hold of a Loop Ammeter and see just what the current draw is.

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#9 PostAuthor: HowieD » Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:53 am

Rich wrote:I use a Fireblade starter relay, small, built in fuse, rubber mounting and cheap from autojumbles :D



do you know the fuse which is fitted ?
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#10 PostAuthor: HowieD » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:18 am

Just for info - I connected the Starter Motor directly to the M-unit and it flashes with an Over Current Fault. Meaning there is more than 40A draw on the curcuit.

So the original is now wired in instead.

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