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#271 PostAuthor: BShaw » Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:05 pm

Just found this thread, How much does it hang on ? my purple one does it, ....1105 , GPZ pistons, 9oo head, flowed, bigger valves, !000 barrels bored, std cams, rs36's.... tried to sort it several times....Timing, carbs.... gave up... put it down to exhaust (straight through) uninformed thought, but thought it was a back pressure wavelength thing.
Would love it crisp though.
Let me know if you sort it.
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#272 PostAuthor: Pigford » Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:15 pm

Been having a play - again!

Back with the 38's (145 mains). Haven't touched the bike for weeks - but it started fairly easily.

This time tried altering ignition settings. Tried advancing it a good 10/15 degree's, but still wants to hang up on revs :cry:

BUT...... :P

I think it has got to be the lumpy cams...... Thinking about it....

If it holds the revs when you rev it, the throttle stop (thumb screw on the carbs) is probably set a bit to much "open". If the cams are lumpy - they are reknowned for poor idling/slow running.
So I must have to open the slide a bit more than is ideal - and if the slow running system (pilot stuff) isn't spot on, this will exacerbate the situation.
So, when I blip the throttle, the cams come into there own and the revs hang up - as the slides are open a smidge too much!
The bike revs and runs OK - off idle and revs drop if the throttle stop is wound back (so she stalls when throttle shut).

On another point - the Odessey battery I bought a while back is bloody ACE :!: I charged it up once (when I got it) and I've had a bit of a play around with the bike months ago - kept starting it. The bikes just been left, and switched it on today - and spun up like mad - loads of battery power :twisted: Highly recommended :wink:
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#273 PostAuthor: hillbilly » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:44 pm

have a look at this thing :lol:
http://www.thunderproducts.com/VIP.htm
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#274 PostAuthor: Pigford » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:43 pm

Blinky Blimey Hillbilly - Thats very interesting :shock:

Gonna get me Blue-Peter kit out in a minute & have a go at making me own :twisted:
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#275 PostAuthor: tm53chev » Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:53 pm

got any before and after pics to post?

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#276 PostAuthor: Pigford » Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:23 pm

TIM, THERES ANOTHER FEW PAGES ON THIS POST :wink:

Look down at the bottom right hand side of this post - 19 pages and counting :??
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#277 PostAuthor: kano » Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:27 pm

i live and ride in the states but im British and bloody proud of it!

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#278 PostAuthor: Ginger Bear » Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:37 pm

Looks like 'All show & No go' to me.
Will you have it sorted for the Ace Mr Piggy :?
Oh, by the way, were you trying to look 'sultry' in that pic, or does it just come naturally :hys :hys

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#279 PostAuthor: Pigford » Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:42 pm

P*ss off Steve :lol:

It wasn't sultry - more like SULKY :cry:
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#280 PostAuthor: tlc » Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:44 pm

Looks better in the early pics :??
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#281 PostAuthor: Ginger Bear » Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:52 pm

Oops, must have touched a nerve :shock:

Sorry Piggy, I didn't know you were so sensative :D :D

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#282 PostAuthor: Pigford » Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:53 pm

tailiftchris wrote:Looks better in the early pics :??


:roll: ............Derrrrrrrr :!:

Thats because its only halfway through the dramatic transformation :P
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#283 PostAuthor: Gus » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:02 pm

Mark

Mine runs 1260, ported head, bigger valves, megacycle cams, 36's, the needles are lifted and a V&H and a ridiculous amount of ignition timing(can't remember what).

It hangs up on throttle return and if I'm at low revs in a higher gear I get pinking.

I just make sure the revs are high enough and ramp the shit out of it.

This is probably of no use what so ever.
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#284 PostAuthor: Pigford » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:59 pm

Thats interesting Gus - I did set the timing to about 50 + degs advance, which helped a bit :??

My black Z1075 pinks even at 38 degs :evil: on load even at 4000 rpm :!:

I may end up going full race throttle - No idle - just stall on shut throttle - last resort :shock:
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#285 PostAuthor: Gus » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:18 pm

For some reason 26 deg. advance is ringing a bell

I have heard that the larger vacuum's created by the bigger bore motors tend to pull on the slides so they don't return easily.

Maybe adjusting the return spring may help but it will make for a stiffer throttle and also I haven't checked my throttle closing cable adjustment lately in case this is not doing its job properly.

We could go on the theory of tickover = stationary

Stationary + tickover = no fun :(

flatnackering it = speed :twisted:

Speed = fun :lol:

Fun always cancels out no fun

Disregard tickover :rir

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