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#1 PostAuthor: wayno » Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:41 pm

got a rebuild of a 900 a4 ongoing, got a new loom today so stated fitting it with new switch gear and ind relay, got power to idiot light cluster,main beam/flash and oil lights work ok, fitted the indicators on one side but no joy using green or grey wires. no light at winker front or back. checked that the earth on the switch to bars was touching, even ran an earth from the switch to the battery but still nothing. got to be something simple thats wrong. any suggestions?

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#2 PostAuthor: steve bowdler » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:45 pm

have you got a yellow and black wire ? or is that later models ? got bulbs in :lol: sorry Wayne had to say it :oops: Is relay OK all wired up ?

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#3 PostAuthor: z1000puddin » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:23 pm

Is the horn working ??

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#4 PostAuthor: z1bman » Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:47 pm

have you got power to the green + grey indicator wires? when indicator is on . if you have run a wire from the indicator stem to a good earth. check the brown wire on the indicator relay should be live when the ignition is on. have you got the earth leads attached to the indicators /black wires with yellow trace. have you checked the bulbs

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#5 PostAuthor: wayno » Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:07 am

z1000puddin wrote:Is the horn working ??

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yep horn working


seems there is no power to the grey/green wires and bulbs fitted and ok

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#6 PostAuthor: z1bman » Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:18 am

remove the wires from the indicator relay + short them together then turn on the indicators if they illuminate you have a faulty relay

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#7 PostAuthor: wayno » Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:55 am

tried shorting them even though it was a new relay but no result, brown wired is live with ignition on

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#8 PostAuthor: HowieD » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:05 am

did you say indicators fitted on one side only ?

I think the wiring uses the none selected indicator to make the circuit complete??

try fitting all four indicators ??

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#9 PostAuthor: z1bman » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:44 am

you need to find out why you have no power at the green + grey indicator wires. ? the orange wire in the switch is live the feed for the indicators check to see if you have voltage at this wire

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#10 PostAuthor: wayno » Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:15 am

tried fitting all 4 indicators, no luck, opened the switch again, ignition on
, no power to the orange wire, pulled the block connectors apart, no power to either side of the orange wire, power at the orange side of the ind relay, tried the orange wire at the hazard switch plug, got power there. plugged the hazard switch in, all 4 illuminated but not flashing

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#11 PostAuthor: z1bman » Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:48 pm

if you have power at the orange wire that is connected to the relay you must have a break or bad connection on the orange wire. run a wire from where the orange fits on the relay + connect it to the orange in the switch

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#12 PostAuthor: wayno » Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:24 pm

z1bman wrote:if you have power at the orange wire that is connected to the relay you must have a break or bad connection on the orange wire. run a wire from where the orange fits on the relay + connect it to the orange in the switch


ran a wire as suggested and indicators light up but not flash, pulled and reconnected all wires i could see in case of a bad connection, as there was no indicators when i got the bike i dont know if there may be anything i am missing, there is a two pin orange and brown wires at the head of the loom inside the headlight shell with nothing i can see to plug into, should there be ?

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#13 PostAuthor: z1bman » Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:45 pm

yes that is for the indicator bleeper it doesn't have to be connected. did you disconnect the orange wire from the relay + attach the wire on to the relay terminal + then to the orange in the switch? if you have done this? your relay is faulty. also disconnect the orange from the relay + connect to the + side of the battery if the indicator comes on but does not flash your relay is at fault .if the indicator does not come on your orange wire is broken

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#14 PostAuthor: wayno » Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:15 pm

took the orange wire off the relay and connected relay male spade to the orange in the switch and indicators flash, took wire from the battery + to the orange wire at the relay and nothing so it seems i got a faulty new loom?

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#15 PostAuthor: z1bman » Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:48 pm

just make sure that the spade connector on the orange wire is a good connection where it is crimped sometimes the wire is not crimped. only the outer sheathing. normally that wire has no joint it is a continuous piece of wire from the relay to the block connector under the tank but the z900a4 has hazards + the orange wires could possibly be crimped together in the harness + that is where it could be broken


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