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dean williams

Vehicle Identification - Frame and engine numbers

#1 PostAuthor: dean williams » Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:55 pm

Hi all
Can anyone provide help or advice regarding vehicle identification.

I have looked at a potential purchase of a Z900, but identified a frame number of DR134811 MD and could not find any engine number.

the log book stated engine number DR134811K29 but could not locate the number to confirm. I looked in normal position of rectangular plate by kick start / oil filler aperture. (normally where engine numbers are). the space was blank but did not look as though it had been rubbed down.

I thought all Z's frame and engine were prefixed Z1***** or KZT

The frame looked ok, can anyone give advice or comment on the information provided as I have a gut feeling something is wrong.

Sorry the bike is a US import

any assistance/info would be greatly received :?: :idea:

Dean

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#2 PostAuthor: floydsz1 » Sun Oct 26, 2008 4:17 pm

Hi Dean.
never seen a frame number like that before. I had a uk z1 with no number but that was because it was a new replacement frame, suppose the engine casings could have been new replacement ones, zpower's web site has all the proper numbers, here's a link to it. hope this helps,
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#3 PostAuthor: dean williams » Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:44 pm

Pete

Thanks for comments

Have emailed Zpower and classic bikes to see if they can show any light on the ID numbers.

Engine did not look new ! although the head did look new or well refurbished.

Just hoping someone reading this might know as there is always someone commenting on specifications of Z's!

The bike I am talking about is on ebay (blue tank with gold stripe from gloucestershire)

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#4 PostAuthor: phil churchett » Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:31 pm

This one Dean?
Looks clean/tidy, but you need to look beyond that. The seller has obviously spent a lot of money on it, but the frame number doesn't match anything Z1 or Z900 related. This may present a problem when you come to sell it.
Let us know how you get on.

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#5 PostAuthor: Keefleaf » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:37 pm

Didn`t Spondon make a replica frame in aluminium? If it is one what no`s would it have?...are you looking in the right place?

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#6 PostAuthor: chrisNI » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:26 am

The Spondon frames are beefier about the swingarm pivot that isn't one. It looks like a Z900 but the frame numbers is made up, by who or why I don't know. It's a import, the MD could be Maryland, maybe it's some kind of US goverment or tax department number but I have no idea why that may have replaced the proper number. Is this frame number stamped into the headstock?

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#7 PostAuthor: london calling » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:46 am

Z900 frame number should start with Z1F suffix and engines with Z1E suffix.
If it's an American import there should be an I.D. sticker/label on the headstock as well the stamped in frame number.
The numbers you've got there are not Kawasaki.
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#8 PostAuthor: phil churchett » Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:08 am

I wonder if it was stamped with these unusual numbers/letters by the authorities,because it is of "dubious origin".
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#9 PostAuthor: dean williams » Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:47 pm

Thanks to all those who responded.

Received comments from Z power and others and sadly not going to purchase.

Comment from Z power was "these numbers mean nothing, certainly they are not kawasaki numbers.
i did see something like this on another USA import and it turned out it was a stolen recovery and re-stamped by the relevent office over there.
Unless it is very cheap i would not bother

Well worth checking though

Bloody shame !!! start the search again now

Dean


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