Cylinder head & barrels Compatibility???

[DogsbolloxofZ1B]

A Z1 nut in NZ has asked me the following: Anyone know the answers?

1. Can the Z1000J1/2/3 cylinder head 11008-1015 be used on the 900
models ?
2. Can the Z1000J1/2/3 cylinders 11005-1118, 11005-1323 be used on the
900 models

Cheers, Mike

[hillbilly]

no

[london calling]

There's a fair amount of work to get them to fit,so it's not a simple bolt on job.
Hy-vo cam chain for the J type motors and the Z is roller.
You can buy a top idler gear conversion to fit the J head onto the Z bottom end.
The above mod still uses the Z cylinder block.
Not sure about swapping the cylinder blocks between the J and Z type motors,pretty sure there are cam chain tunnel issues
Hopefully the site stud,Steve "Romeo" Debben will be along with the definitive answer

[Al]

Here is some compatibility info for 1000 models. May be of some use.


http://www.aperaceparts.com/tech/techkz1000.html


There are two different KZ1000 engines. The first is the Z1 type which was built between 1976 and 1980. The second is the 1000J, or "J model" as it is called, and was built from 1981 until present ( currently only available in police motorcycles). These engines are different, but some of the parts can be interchanged, and this has caused much confusion. We hope this makes everything clearer.

The first example is simply a big bore Z1 900. This engine came with a kick starter and electric starter. The cam chain tensioner hole in the cylinder block is a rectangle. The ccs cast on the cylinder is 1015. The later "J model" has no kick starter, and the cam chain tensioner hole in the cylinder block is round. The cc's cast on the cylinder is 998. This engine also became the GPZ1100 in 1981 and '82, and virtually everything between them is the same. (The '83-'84 GPZ1100 was changed). Cylinder blocks and lower engine cases are NOT interchangeable. You can not put a J model cylinder on an older style lower end, and vise versa.

Cylinder blocks.. Not interchangeable. If you have a J model block/GPZ1100 block you must use a J model or GPZ1100 cases.

Crankshafts... Early KZ1000 used a roller type cam chain and the crank has that style center sprocket. J model used Hy-vo style chain. J model cranks can be used in early lower end if the center crank pin is changed to one with a roller chain sprocket. The J model connecting rods are approx 1.2 mm shorter than early style rods.

Cylinder head.. J model head has larger valves and ports. This head can be used on earlier style cylinder and lower end by installing APE #CCIA cam chain sprocket adapter in head . How to tell which head you have.. Early style heads have four factory drilled and tapped 6mm holes in the center to bolt in cam chain idler gear. Z1 900 heads have 6 mm exhaust studs, KZ1000 8 mm. On the J model head, the four cam plugs at the ends of the camshaft areas are bolted in, on the early style head, they just push in and the valve cover holds them in. The J model / '81-'82 GPZ1100 cylinder head has a larger combustion chamber than the early style head. When these heads are used on the early style motor, a compression ratio drop of about 2 full points can be expected.

Pistons... All pistons have 17 mm pin holes, but the J model/ '81-'82 GPZ1100 pistons have the pin hole lower in the piston to make up for the short connecting rod. All J model and early '81-'82 GPZ1100 pistons are the same ( '83-'84 GPZ has 18 mm pins ) Therefore any '81-'82 GPZ piston can be fitted to a J model engine to make a big bore engine. Pistons for the J model / '81-'82 GPZ1100 can not be used in a motor that has an early style long connecting rods unless a spacer plate is used under the cylinder block to compensate. If early style KZ pistons are used in an engine that has the short J model / '81-'82 GPZ1100 connecting rods, a special short cylinder block has to be used.

We have tried to make this as clear as possible. When ordering your parts from APE, let us know which engine you have, or if you are mixing early style and late style parts, let our tech/order department know and we will see to it that you get the correct parts combination.

[DogsbolloxofZ1B]

zorded,
Very informative

Many thanks,
Mike

[debben1]

I am back from giving the poll dancers some hair styling tips. Yes you can fit the GPz block and head, I am doing this mod to my track day bike, requires some machining but it is possible, length of the conrods also differ so you need to resolve the deck height issues too. Regards, Romeo (AKA Shirley Temple AKA Steve)