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#76 PostAuthor: Ginger Bear » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:34 pm

Simon,
Any chance of a pic of the offending brake pedal pivot, I know it's a faff, but you never know........ Someone might have a bright idea :idea:

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#77 PostAuthor: coldsummer » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:42 pm

Ginger Bear wrote:Simon,
Any chance of a pic of the offending brake pedal pivot, I know it's a faff, but you never know........ Someone might have a bright idea :idea:


Hi Steve. Yes I'll do that, probably tomorrow. The brake pedal has been shortened for the rearsets so the normal clearance seems to have been compromised. Unless I'm being a complete idiot which is always possible.

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#78 PostAuthor: coldsummer » Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:06 pm

Took another look at the rear brake pivot today. Thought daylight might help shed some more, erm, light on the problem. Well, no eureka moments that's for sure. I think the pedal has been shortened to fit the rearsets and possibly a different mounting point welded on (difficult to tell as I don't have a standard one to compare with). There just isn't enough clearance to pull the pedal from the shaft, don't know how it was put on unless brute force (and there are some tell-tale deep scratches on the frame) or bracket welded on with the pedal in place, but that seems unlikely.

So I've thought of three solutions.

1. remove pedal from shaft and replace with one incorporating more of a bend so it clears the adjuster lug.

2. Remove pivot shaft completely, drill hole in remaining bracket/lug and tap thread so I could get another pivot shaft made up which would bolt into the frame and secure with an additional locking nut. May flex too much?

3. Remove adjuster lug and reweld at more of a 45 degree angle to the frame tube which would give the extra clearance needed. I think this is probably the easiest solution.

I'll probably take it down to Griffs and see if they have any ideas. I was going to get them to powdercoat the frame and remove a couple of the braces anyway so may as well do it all at once.

Anyway, here are some pics to illustrate the predicament. First one shows the lack of clearance need to pull the pedal off.
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Next one shows the lug a bit more clearly
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Lowest point, onwards and upwards from here then!
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Poor old girl, what an indignity with the young pretended posing in the background (ready to be sold to fund the Zed's rebuild)! Plenty of treats in store to make up for it though!

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#79 PostAuthor: coldsummer » Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:25 am

You guys are going to love hearing about the engine! Surprised the damned thing started at all. This will be a labour of love for sure! And Mike hasn't even split the cases yet..... stay tuned

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#80 PostAuthor: coldsummer » Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:29 am

It will be a damned miracle if this bike ever hits the road again......every corner presents a challenge (£££££££'sss) (Frame, Engine, Cycle parts, Electrics..etc etc).

Need some encouragement....

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#81 PostAuthor: GUYZED » Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:00 am

Stick with it Simon - it will be worth it in the end :D
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#82 PostAuthor: phil churchett » Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:36 am

Z power are ready and waiting to take money off you :D
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#83 PostAuthor: coldsummer » Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:34 pm

phil churchett wrote:Z power are ready and waiting to take money off you :D


They already have Phil!

Off to Mikey's in the morning to get some shiny bits done.

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#84 PostAuthor: mikey » Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:27 pm

Looking forward to contributing to this project simon
as i have a few others on here.
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#85 PostAuthor: Ginger Bear » Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:30 am

Stick with it Simon, it will be worth the effort in the end!

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#86 PostAuthor: KWACKERZ1 » Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:51 am

All the beststhings in life come from hard work!

If you need encouragement, just have a scan through the pinboard on here, or go back to page 1 and look at your bike in one piece and imagine how much better it will be.

There's nothing better than a sorted zed, :twisted:

Which reminds me I must get on with doing mine :oops:

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#87 PostAuthor: coldsummer » Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:39 pm

Thanks guys, I was just having a whine.

Seems to be problems with every part of the bike but that's part of the fun isn't it! The old girl's been through some interesting times over the past 30 odd years so she deserves a bit of attention now!

I don't regret starting this, can't wait to start the rebuild. Hope to post some updated pics soon.

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#88 PostAuthor: ROZZER » Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:26 pm

Deffo stick with it as it will all be worthwhile in the end.
My advice is don't make any rash decisions , look at the big picture before making any decisions especially compromises.
I went through issues with my Z1B (bent frame, knackered top end of motor) although it had been partially restored by previous owner, but liberal use of the money spanner sorted it all eventually.
A word on the paint, my bike is a B but painted up Z1 esque in yellow/green, not the original green a brighter larger flake and it looks brill' IMO
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#89 PostAuthor: coldsummer » Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:11 pm

john_roscoe wrote:Deffo stick with it as it will all be worthwhile in the end.
My advice is don't make any rash decisions , look at the big picture before making any decisions especially compromises.
I went through issues with my Z1B (bent frame, knackered top end of motor) although it had been partially restored by previous owner, but liberal use of the money spanner sorted it all eventually.
A word on the paint, my bike is a B but painted up Z1 esque in yellow/green, not the original green a brighter larger flake and it looks brill' IMO


John, that's funny, I had always planned to have the Z1 Green/Yellow paint even though mine is mostly Z1B (A4 motor). Each time I think of something different I always end up coming back to the G/Y. Must admit though, I saw Mikey's Z1000 today which is wearing Z1B candy blue colours and I really liked that, and that was always my second choice but not sure again. My other thought was a completely unique colour but using the Z1B design?? No rush I guess, plenty to be going on with in the meantime. BTW, yours does look great, I like the shorty front fender too.

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#90 PostAuthor: tlc » Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:13 pm

V nice looking bike there Mr Roscoe :D
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