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Q's Z900 A4
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Been in the garage, having a muck about
Well that looks about right, so on with the rest of the NS. Can't work out why the picture is on it's side though? edit - pic's the right way up now ?
Engine studs in and clutch sorted, had a few problems with that
Some found during stripdown,
and some my own stupid fault
All done now though, all shiny too
Fitted this bit, the old bearings were a bit notchy, so I replaced them and now they are smooth as silk. Tip here, when you have put the stem in the freezer and your wife asked if you want any dessert after tea; don't ask for ice cream!!
Now I have problems with the new pistons
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Well that looks about right, so on with the rest of the NS. Can't work out why the picture is on it's side though? edit - pic's the right way up now ?

Engine studs in and clutch sorted, had a few problems with that

Some found during stripdown,

and some my own stupid fault


All done now though, all shiny too


Fitted this bit, the old bearings were a bit notchy, so I replaced them and now they are smooth as silk. Tip here, when you have put the stem in the freezer and your wife asked if you want any dessert after tea; don't ask for ice cream!!

Now I have problems with the new pistons

Somewhere, over a rainbow, weigh a pie.
1976 KZ900
1976 KZ900
Quick update
I've always liked Konis or Ikons as they call them these days, so decided to keep them but replace the seals and oil.
I must admit that I prefer the look of the standard shock with the chrome spring and cap, so asked the question of Ikon, can I get chrome springs and caps for my shocks? After around eight emails and three phone calls I finally managed to get them. They are not very customer orientated that lot
Whipped the spring off
Undid this bit, to reveal one of the rubber seals to be replaced. Another of the seals is inside the threaded cap.
Pulled the centre tube out and spent a while trying to pull it apart.
The join is here - basically grab a tight hold of this shoulder with one hand, and the lower tube with the other, and twist as hard as you can. After turning it a few times, it finally let go and came apart.
Then undid the lower nut (forgot to take a piccy here
) and slid the threaded cap off. Pressed the seal out and replaced it with a couple of sockets and the vice.
Top cap was more difficult, it really didn't want to budge. After soaking for a couple of days, it finally let go, and I managed to get the small seal into the top. Bit fiddly that, but got there in the end.
Back together with the new springs and caps, best of both worlds
Nowt wrong with the front forks, they look ok, and work fine. One little thing is that someone once tried to remove the cap with their teeth
Bit of confusion with the spring length as the Z1, which I have the manual for is 495.5mm with a service limit of 485mm. Mine were 467mm
. Apparently the KZ900 has springs of 465mm with a service limit of 455mm. Why mine are 2mm longer than this, I don't know
I have put 150ml of fresh oil in, and am waiting for it to settle, before checking the depth from the fork top, which apparently is 426mm.
Looks nice with the new caps and powder coated steering stem head.
Chrome bits have been attacked viciously with some paper towels and half a tube of Solvol Autosol, after getting a huge quote for rechroming.

I've always liked Konis or Ikons as they call them these days, so decided to keep them but replace the seals and oil.


I must admit that I prefer the look of the standard shock with the chrome spring and cap, so asked the question of Ikon, can I get chrome springs and caps for my shocks? After around eight emails and three phone calls I finally managed to get them. They are not very customer orientated that lot

Whipped the spring off

Undid this bit, to reveal one of the rubber seals to be replaced. Another of the seals is inside the threaded cap.

Pulled the centre tube out and spent a while trying to pull it apart.

The join is here - basically grab a tight hold of this shoulder with one hand, and the lower tube with the other, and twist as hard as you can. After turning it a few times, it finally let go and came apart.

Then undid the lower nut (forgot to take a piccy here

Top cap was more difficult, it really didn't want to budge. After soaking for a couple of days, it finally let go, and I managed to get the small seal into the top. Bit fiddly that, but got there in the end.

Back together with the new springs and caps, best of both worlds


Nowt wrong with the front forks, they look ok, and work fine. One little thing is that someone once tried to remove the cap with their teeth


Bit of confusion with the spring length as the Z1, which I have the manual for is 495.5mm with a service limit of 485mm. Mine were 467mm



Looks nice with the new caps and powder coated steering stem head.

Chrome bits have been attacked viciously with some paper towels and half a tube of Solvol Autosol, after getting a huge quote for rechroming.
Somewhere, over a rainbow, weigh a pie.
1976 KZ900
1976 KZ900
When I first got the Zed, the thread on the NS footrest pegs was pretty much FUBAR, so I ordered some new studs. The upper one tapped out easily when the inner nut was removed. The lower one seemed to be screwed in, and decided to snap off when twisted
Just seeing the new ones in place is a much bigger thing than anyone can imagine. It has been a nightmare.
While messing about, adding stuff to the front, I noticed that it was finely balanced on the wooden blocks and was close to tipping forward, hence the huge blocks on the back. I have now hung the rear wheel on the shocks as well, don't want it falling over, especially with me sitting in front of it
Oh, and I have put the new pistons (+0.5mm) on and also the barrels.
Also, out of idiocy, or rather just not knowing, I have removed the sump, turned the bike over and stripped out the gearchange mechanism because I could only get first gear
What a mistaka to maka

Just seeing the new ones in place is a much bigger thing than anyone can imagine. It has been a nightmare.

While messing about, adding stuff to the front, I noticed that it was finely balanced on the wooden blocks and was close to tipping forward, hence the huge blocks on the back. I have now hung the rear wheel on the shocks as well, don't want it falling over, especially with me sitting in front of it


Oh, and I have put the new pistons (+0.5mm) on and also the barrels.
Also, out of idiocy, or rather just not knowing, I have removed the sump, turned the bike over and stripped out the gearchange mechanism because I could only get first gear


What a mistaka to maka

Somewhere, over a rainbow, weigh a pie.
1976 KZ900
1976 KZ900
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Cheers Freddy, it's certainly a steep learning curve, bit of fun though.
Nothing wrong with the gear change Steve, I just didn't know you couldn't get 2nd or above without the engine running
Tried to fit the battery case back in today, but when I stripped the bike, the rear of the battery case was welded to the cross member, and badly at that. I have fitted the front to the detachable cross member, but will need to make up a bracket for the rear fixing.
Before I started stripping it down, I took a load of pictures,
It's not until now that I noticed there is no breather pipe, the oil breather is open to the air, and the short pipe coming from the airbox is plugged at the top. The inlet tube holder plate is missing from the airbox and the fixing holes are filled with silicone and covered in gaffa tape. The airbox cap is made from gaffa tape too. Started cleaning it up today, and have put an ad in the wanted section.
I am assuming the incorrect battery box is down to the rear disc brake being fitted, and room being required for the mater cylinder et al - I could be wrong though
Richard
Nothing wrong with the gear change Steve, I just didn't know you couldn't get 2nd or above without the engine running

Tried to fit the battery case back in today, but when I stripped the bike, the rear of the battery case was welded to the cross member, and badly at that. I have fitted the front to the detachable cross member, but will need to make up a bracket for the rear fixing.

Before I started stripping it down, I took a load of pictures,

It's not until now that I noticed there is no breather pipe, the oil breather is open to the air, and the short pipe coming from the airbox is plugged at the top. The inlet tube holder plate is missing from the airbox and the fixing holes are filled with silicone and covered in gaffa tape. The airbox cap is made from gaffa tape too. Started cleaning it up today, and have put an ad in the wanted section.


I am assuming the incorrect battery box is down to the rear disc brake being fitted, and room being required for the mater cylinder et al - I could be wrong though

Richard
Somewhere, over a rainbow, weigh a pie.
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Great read this
keep the pictures coming, I've learned quite a bit, I wouldn't have known that you can't select gears without the engine running!

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Is Vic There wrote:Great read thiskeep the pictures coming, I've learned quite a bit, I wouldn't have known that you can't select gears without the engine running!
It's actually the bike MOVING that enables gear selection into 2nd - the relevant gear shaft has to turn to allow the little bearings to move

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Pigford wrote:Is Vic There wrote:Great read thiskeep the pictures coming, I've learned quite a bit, I wouldn't have known that you can't select gears without the engine running!
It's actually the bike MOVING that enables gear selection into 2nd - the relevant gear shaft has to turn to allow the little bearings to move
Difficult to move the bike if it has no wheels on it when it's on the bench! but you can rotate the engine by the output shaft.

Z1B Alan wrote:Just to let you know the picture of the Z1B is my old bike the picture was taken at the Ponderosa N orth Wales.
Awesome machine that. That is the picture which finally spurred me into going out and getting a Zed. Why on earth would you sell that?
Cheers
Richarfd
Somewhere, over a rainbow, weigh a pie.
1976 KZ900
1976 KZ900
The first time I openend the seat on my newly acquired Zed, I was faced with this. The rear of the battery box had been welded to the frame. OK it can't really be seen normally, but I wanted to fix this bit.
I cut it off, filed the frame back to where it should be, then had the frame powder coated. Now to make up a bracket and get it looking better.
Using an old Scott's porage oats box (Seems strange they can't spell, 'Porridge?' ) I started getting the required shape.
Bought a new rubber mounting kit, and test fitted it to the bike.
Transferred the shape to some 1mm plate I had lying around, then after a bit of panel beating, and sawing later, new bracket was fitted and painted up ready for the battery. I have started cleaning up the plastic mudguard with some 600 wet & dry, followed by 2000. More of that later, if I ever get it right
Even the box itself seemed shocked at the transformation


I cut it off, filed the frame back to where it should be, then had the frame powder coated. Now to make up a bracket and get it looking better.

Using an old Scott's porage oats box (Seems strange they can't spell, 'Porridge?' ) I started getting the required shape.

Bought a new rubber mounting kit, and test fitted it to the bike.

Transferred the shape to some 1mm plate I had lying around, then after a bit of panel beating, and sawing later, new bracket was fitted and painted up ready for the battery. I have started cleaning up the plastic mudguard with some 600 wet & dry, followed by 2000. More of that later, if I ever get it right


Even the box itself seemed shocked at the transformation


Somewhere, over a rainbow, weigh a pie.
1976 KZ900
1976 KZ900
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