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Thread on z650 crankcase/head studs
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:02 am
Author: mothra
I'm trying to get the studs out of my upper cranckcase using the trusty 'two nuts together' technique- does anyone know what the thread is as it doesn't seem to be the standard metric thread....
Stu
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:53 am
Author: Steve R
Hi Stu,
Cant help with thread size on a z650 but on the Z1 its 10mm x 1.25.
I have just taken all the studs out of my Z1A crankcase using the trusty mole grip method with no problems. soaked them in wd 40 each night for a week then Used a large mole grip and gripped the stud near to the base to avoid bending them, all came out with no problem.
Probably would not want to reuse them as they are marked by the grips but I am putting Ape studs in any way.
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:54 pm
Author: chrisu
as steve says - its probably the finer 1.25 pitch rather than the standard and more common 1.5.
you just need the right nuts !!

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:44 pm
Author: mothra
Thanks guys - I've just ordered a bunch of 1.25 pitch nuts of the web. Something will fit.
I've tried the molegrip method, but at the moment I'm not getting a good enough grip....
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:53 pm
Author: Steve R
Stick two pairs on at 180 degrees to each other then you can twist with both hands and you are not putting a shearing force on the stud, and soak with wd or simlar.
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:43 pm
Author: zedrider
mole grips ? omg use stillsons . ive yet to find any thing that wont move with a good set of stillsons . mine dont get much use now ive got rid of the triumphs lol there you go . whats next ?
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:01 pm
Author: Ed Z1-R
"Plus Gas"
Pukka "Dismantling fluid"

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:12 pm
Author: Pigford
Chrisu..... do you mean the standard 1.0 pitch, not 1.5

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:08 pm
Author: chrisu
nope.
std 10mm pitch is 1.5
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:50 am
Author: RALPHARAMA
Mole grips, Stilsons ?

You barbarians
You were quite correct to use two nuts. You can get some stud extractors from Machine Mart for not very much, which work on a roller cam method which work very well and aren't expensive -
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/pro57-4-pce-stud-extractor-set
Mole grips .... stilsons ...

shame on you

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:21 pm
Author: mothra
Good to see a range of opinions.... :-) The 180 degree molegrips sounds like it would help, but I'm a big wuss and I've orderd a stud remover - one of the compact jobbies that sits at the bottom of the stud. I'll try it out tomorrow and if any good post photos...
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:37 pm
Author: tlc
Can I suggest you warm the cases where the studs go in.
I find it also helps to "rock" the offending studs backward and forward once they move.
If they don`t move just keep "rocking" and warming, with a Butane torch, and heaps of penetrating oil.
Patience really is a virtue in this case.
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:48 pm
Author: Taffus
repost due to a Duh moment
[quote="tailiftchris"you warm the cases where the studs go in.[/quote]
Pun intended?:P
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:18 am
Author: mothra
Ok, an update in case it helps anyone out.... Stud remover was one of these:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0280439001
Long story short, it did not work. Consensus was that it probably offered more purchase than the two nut method, but was still slipping (these bolts were in tight!) Tried heat, soaking in wd40, still couldn't get them to shift. In the end, went back to mole grips and I was shown that if you orient them one way they get tighter as you turn - sounds obvious, but sometimes you need to hear these things... Got em out now, casings off being blasted...
Stu
Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:27 am
Author: Pigford
Well done Mothra....
In my opinion (tried & trusted over 30yrs) its often more down to the operator than the tool itself
I have survived on Halfords tools and if you are competent & experienced, you can usually get the job done quite satifactorily...
OK, its great having spangly brand name stuff, but you gotta have some aptitude as well...
Glad you sussed it out.... 10/10
