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Smallest battery to run a Zed with no electric start.

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:03 pm
Author: Gus
What is the smallest amperage battery I can use to run a Zed with no electric start and no lights?

The charging system will still be in place.

What do total loss systems use?

Cheers

Gus

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:41 pm
Author: Big Glenn
Is it running on pionts, or have you converted to electronic ignition? and how small do you need to go?

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:11 pm
Author: Gus
Hi Big Glenn.

It's running on points at the moment.

I will run a brake light and the horn for the MOT.

I will retain the charging system and it has already been converted to a rec/reg pack.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Gus

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:20 pm
Author: Pigford
A day time MOT doesn't even need a brake light :shock: although common sense says best to have one :wink:

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:35 pm
Author: Gus
Exactly my thinking Mr. Pigford.

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:12 pm
Author: FOZ1A
I was thinking of doing something similar on the rickman and my electrical wizard around 8 amps should be enough,and use a gel battery cause you can mount them anywhere!!

Foz

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:32 pm
Author: Big Glenn
I reckon 8 amps would be more than enough, with only the ignition system to run, and the charging system still hooked up. Have a look at batteries for 125cc sports bikes.

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:43 pm
Author: Gus
I would have thought the charging circuit would put out enough to run the bike.

Does anybody have any output figures?

Maybe a small battery would help stabilise the system using the sense wire from the rec/reg unit but I'm only guessing.

Who built the Gardner Moriwaki replica, doesn't he run a total loss system using a battery from a model shop or something similar?

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:03 pm
Author: FER
Boyer do a power box which doesn't need a battery . Reg' and rect' built in . Got one on my lawson and it works ok .




fer

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:48 pm
Author: Gus
FER wrote:Boyer do a power box which doesn't need a battery . Reg' and rect' built in . Got one on my lawson and it works ok .
fer


Do you run the Lawson without a battery fitted Fer?

How much are they?

I see on the Boyer website they mention a capacitor in the power box.

That is sort of what I meant about using a small battery to stabilise the system.

I'll try and give them a ring tomorrow.

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:11 pm
Author: Gus
The technical Guy at Boyer doesn't think that kicking the bike over will spin the alternator fast enough to generate enough power to fire the engine( I think he said around 300rpm).

Although a push start does work for race bikes.

He thinks maybe a 3Amp battery with their Power Box might just do the trick.

So I might as well just try a small Amperage battery with what I've got.

The Power Boxes are £78 delivered.