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Z1r Firing problem

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:55 pm
Author: PAULJAC47
Been working on a mates Z1r,bike would stop firing on no2 pot, so fitted new coils ,new Dyna s,new leads,Nippon Denso plugs,new plug caps,Still stopped firing on N02 pot,swapped leads 2 and 3 now stopped firing on no3 and n02 fires ok good 12volts at coils(wired George mod)..Any thoughts?

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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 7:00 pm
Author: ted1r
Compression test Paul.

Ted

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 7:05 pm
Author: PAULJAC47
All good Ted,shims checked,timing all good..

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 7:13 pm
Author: Ginger Bear
Paul,

It must be either the lead, plug cap or output post on the coil....

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 7:14 pm
Author: jimmock
It is obviously an ignition component failure.

The problem has been swapped over to #3
That means EVERYTHING with #2 is good.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 7:29 pm
Author: PAULJAC47
My thoughts exactly guys, but all new components and the fault is exactly the same,new leads, plugs .dyna,caps,might try swapping coil and leads for 1 and 4 with coil for 2 and 3?

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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 7:42 pm
Author: ted1r
Well if you done all that Paul it can only be Fookin woodworm try Ronseal. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 7:43 pm
Author: PAULJAC47
Would Wickes own make do the job Ted?

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:37 pm
Author: KeithZ1R
forgive me big lad...but did you swap the leads in the out puts as well or just the lead cos if its following the lead take one of the myriad of other bikes you have and try that :lol:

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:23 pm
Author: jimmock
Maybe when you are in under the tank you are disturbing something??

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:25 pm
Author: jimmock
If it was a coil issue BOTH 2+3 would be down.

Swapping it would mean 1+4 being down.

The HT lead in question isn't arcing out.

Try running it in the garage with the lights out.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:37 pm
Author: PAULJAC47
Keith brand new coils with sealed in leads,new caps,plugs,swapped 2 and 3 over at plug cap end and fault transferred from 2 to 3.But works when you first fire her up just fails after a while?

Jim tank is off,no arcing.

Was same fault b4 we replaced all the ignition components!

One thing i have noticed is that the lead that goes to the pot that fails ,either 2 or 3 shows intermittent firing when you put the clamp from the strobe light across the ht lead

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:43 pm
Author: jimmock
"One thing i have noticed is that the lead that goes to the pot that fails ,either 2 or 3 shows intermittent firing when you put the clamp from the strobe light across the ht lead"

Paul, sounds like that new lead is breaking down ??

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:47 pm
Author: PAULJAC47
Weird that because that was what the old lead and coil were doing with the strobe?

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:48 pm
Author: z1bman
even new parts can be faulty don't presume because its new it is without faults