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Sparking Points !
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 8:42 pm
Author: phil1r
Hi Guy's, am I correct in saying my condensers could be Duff if I'm getting sparking at the points

Only problem is they where probably fitted about 2 years ago, but done very little miles in that time. I do intend fitting an electronic ignition at some time but I'm desperate to make it run well as it should, first with original points. Am I mad

or just stupid

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:21 am
Author: Pigford
Sounds like condensors.... or dirty/oily points

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:38 am
Author: phil1r
Sod it, Dyna S here we come

I'm getting fed up now, with trying to get this bike running as it should. After wired George Mod, new stator, new regulator rectifier, Iridium plugs fitted. What next

never had so much patience with a bike, but this is now running out.
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 12:40 pm
Author: wilsonsjw11
Phil,
Dyna coils too.
It's worth it in the long run for starting and running performance.
Regards
Steve
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 12:42 pm
Author: ADRIAN H
wilsonsjw11 wrote:Dyna coils too.
+ 1
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 1:38 pm
Author: ZedHead
Full bundle with leads £290.44 and freeshipping using code FREESHIP0815
http://www.saisei-europe.com/Shop/Produ ... kawasaki-z
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:39 pm
Author: Kev1R
or........... new condensers - less than a tenner from M & P Direct
close call!!!
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:53 pm
Author: kev edwards
Phil when I had a thou I had years of it faffing around new plugs, condensers, points, coils, dyna system, harness completely stripped and checked, all mechanical timings and clearances done and it still faffed about, I put a two into one back on it similar to originals and bingo no problems ever again.
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:02 pm
Author: Redbeard
Kev1R wrote:or........... new condensers - less than a tenner from M & P Direct
close call!!!
+1. It's also guaranteed to confirm your suspicions over the existing ones.
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 10:27 pm
Author: phil1r
kev edwards wrote:Phil when I had a thou I had years of it faffing around new plugs, condensers, points, coils, dyna system, harness completely stripped and checked, all mechanical timings and clearances done and it still faffed about, I put a two into one back on it similar to originals and bingo no problems ever again.
Kev, I've got a 4 into 1 original Z1R
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:55 am
Author: johny brando
phil1r wrote:kev edwards wrote:Phil when I had a thou I had years of it faffing around new plugs, condensers, points, coils, dyna system, harness completely stripped and checked, all mechanical timings and clearances done and it still faffed about, I put a two into one back on it similar to originals and bingo no problems ever again.
Kev, I've got a 4 into 1 original Z1R
I'm sure the Dyna system is good & I've a CDi MK11 ignition system on my 900 kawa & yeh there both reliable I'm sure......... BUT- hey, with points & condensors you'll always get home if it goe's tits up on you at the side of the road & you can buy alot of points & condensors for 295 sobs. O yeh , I guess your aware that points do normally spark ... but when they really start arcing quite brightly ....yeh there toast & you can test em quickly & easy enough you'll find the simple tests in the manual.
Mmmm, I guess you could always have the best of both world too & carry your spare points plate assy under your seat...just in case ! Cheers Johny Brando.
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:55 am
Author: phil1r
johny brando wrote:phil1r wrote:kev edwards wrote:Phil when I had a thou I had years of it faffing around new plugs, condensers, points, coils, dyna system, harness completely stripped and checked, all mechanical timings and clearances done and it still faffed about, I put a two into one back on it similar to originals and bingo no problems ever again.
Kev, I've got a 4 into 1 original Z1R
I'm sure the Dyna system is good & I've a CDi MK11 ignition system on my 900 kawa & yeh there both reliable I'm sure......... BUT- hey, with points & condensors you'll always get home if it goe's tits up on you at the side of the road & you can buy alot of points & condensors for 295 sobs. O yeh , I guess your aware that points do normally spark ... but when they really start arcing quite brightly ....yeh there toast & you can test em quickly & easy enough you'll find the simple tests in the manual.
Mmmm, I guess you could always have the best of both world too & carry your spare points plate assy under your seat...just in case ! Cheers Johny Brando.
Fitted new condensers, still the same

Shite oh well treated myself to a Dyna S. See how this goes
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:01 pm
Author: Pigford
No matter the "pro's & con's" of points..... Dyna S will give a better & more precise spark, so go for it. I'd defo go for some Dyna 3 ohm coils as well to reap the full benefit of improved starting, running, power & fuel efficiency

Dyna S
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:11 pm
Author: phil1r
Before I fit the Dyna S. I'm still having a go to make it run 95% on points, as said before changed condensers with no difference. I have a feeling 2-3 coil may be a problem, but not a obvious fault. So put a brand new set of Denso plugs in AGAIN

2nd set in a week. I managed to ride it for a few miles not good though, but better than before. Got back looked at plugs again, number 2 wet but header pipe warm

. Changed the plug cap on 2 ran slightly better
So I've purchased a cheap coil with leads to replace 2-3. But my problem is where to put the wires, one is black and the other is black with white line. So anyone know

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:22 pm
Author: Mark Tiller
don't matter which way round