Sparking Points !

phil1r · #1 PostAuthor: **phil1r** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 8:42 pm

Hi Guy's, am I correct in saying my condensers could be Duff if I'm getting sparking at the points :?:

Only problem is they where probably fitted about 2 years ago, but done very little miles in that time. I do intend fitting an electronic ignition at some time but I'm desperate to make it run well as it should, first with original points. Am I mad :shock:

or just stupid :?:

Pigford · #2 PostAuthor: **Pigford** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:21 am

Sounds like condensors.... or dirty/oily points

phil1r · #3 PostAuthor: **phil1r** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:38 am

Sod it, Dyna S here we come :!:

I'm getting fed up now, with trying to get this bike running as it should. After wired George Mod, new stator, new regulator rectifier, Iridium plugs fitted. What next

never had so much patience with a bike, but this is now running out.

wilsonsjw11 · #4 PostAuthor: **wilsonsjw11** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 12:40 pm

Phil,
Dyna coils too.
It's worth it in the long run for starting and running performance.
Regards
Steve

ADRIAN H · #5 PostAuthor: **ADRIAN H** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 12:42 pm

wilsonsjw11 wrote:Dyna coils too.

+ 1

ZedHead · #6 PostAuthor: **ZedHead** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 1:38 pm

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Kev1R · #7 PostAuthor: **Kev1R** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:39 pm

or........... new condensers - less than a tenner from M & P Direct

close call!!!

kev edwards · #8 PostAuthor: **kev edwards** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:53 pm

Phil when I had a thou I had years of it faffing around new plugs, condensers, points, coils, dyna system, harness completely stripped and checked, all mechanical timings and clearances done and it still faffed about, I put a two into one back on it similar to originals and bingo no problems ever again.

Redbeard · #9 PostAuthor: **Redbeard** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:02 pm

Kev1R wrote:or........... new condensers - less than a tenner from M & P Direct

close call!!!

+1. It's also guaranteed to confirm your suspicions over the existing ones.

phil1r · #10 PostAuthor: **phil1r** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 10:27 pm

kev edwards wrote:Phil when I had a thou I had years of it faffing around new plugs, condensers, points, coils, dyna system, harness completely stripped and checked, all mechanical timings and clearances done and it still faffed about, I put a two into one back on it similar to originals and bingo no problems ever again.

Kev, I've got a 4 into 1 original Z1R

johny brando · #11 PostAuthor: **johny brando** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:55 am

phil1r wrote:
kev edwards wrote:Phil when I had a thou I had years of it faffing around new plugs, condensers, points, coils, dyna system, harness completely stripped and checked, all mechanical timings and clearances done and it still faffed about, I put a two into one back on it similar to originals and bingo no problems ever again.

Kev, I've got a 4 into 1 original Z1R

I'm sure the Dyna system is good & I've a CDi MK11 ignition system on my 900 kawa & yeh there both reliable I'm sure......... BUT- hey, with points & condensors you'll always get home if it goe's tits up on you at the side of the road & you can buy alot of points & condensors for 295 sobs. O yeh , I guess your aware that points do normally spark ... but when they really start arcing quite brightly ....yeh there toast & you can test em quickly & easy enough you'll find the simple tests in the manual.
Mmmm, I guess you could always have the best of both world too & carry your spare points plate assy under your seat...just in case ! Cheers Johny Brando.

phil1r · #12 PostAuthor: **phil1r** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:55 am

johny brando wrote:
phil1r wrote:
kev edwards wrote:Phil when I had a thou I had years of it faffing around new plugs, condensers, points, coils, dyna system, harness completely stripped and checked, all mechanical timings and clearances done and it still faffed about, I put a two into one back on it similar to originals and bingo no problems ever again.

Kev, I've got a 4 into 1 original Z1R

I'm sure the Dyna system is good & I've a CDi MK11 ignition system on my 900 kawa & yeh there both reliable I'm sure......... BUT- hey, with points & condensors you'll always get home if it goe's tits up on you at the side of the road & you can buy alot of points & condensors for 295 sobs. O yeh , I guess your aware that points do normally spark ... but when they really start arcing quite brightly ....yeh there toast & you can test em quickly & easy enough you'll find the simple tests in the manual.
Mmmm, I guess you could always have the best of both world too & carry your spare points plate assy under your seat...just in case ! Cheers Johny Brando.

Fitted new condensers, still the same :twisted:

Shite oh well treated myself to a Dyna S. See how this goes

Pigford · #13 PostAuthor: **Pigford** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:01 pm

No matter the "pro's & con's" of points..... Dyna S will give a better & more precise spark, so go for it. I'd defo go for some Dyna 3 ohm coils as well to reap the full benefit of improved starting, running, power & fuel efficiency :wink:

phil1r · #14 PostAuthor: **phil1r** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:11 pm

Before I fit the Dyna S. I'm still having a go to make it run 95% on points, as said before changed condensers with no difference. I have a feeling 2-3 coil may be a problem, but not a obvious fault. So put a brand new set of Denso plugs in AGAIN :twisted:

2nd set in a week. I managed to ride it for a few miles not good though, but better than before. Got back looked at plugs again, number 2 wet but header pipe warm :shock:

. Changed the plug cap on 2 ran slightly better :?:

So I've purchased a cheap coil with leads to replace 2-3. But my problem is where to put the wires, one is black and the other is black with white line. So anyone know
:?:

Mark Tiller · #15 PostAuthor: **Mark Tiller** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:22 pm

don't matter which way round

Sparking Points !

Sparking Points !

Dyna S

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