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stripped thread on No 3 plug hole

#1 PostAuthor: stevez1 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:39 am

Hi, Feeling like a right pillock just now. In a moment of distraction, I seem to have stripped the thread on No.3 plug hole. Just seems to be the first couple of turns but the plug won't align and screw in. Don't want to force it and make it worse. Has any one got any suggestions for an easy fix or is it a head off job?
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#2 PostAuthor: Hinckley » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:16 pm

If you've got a friendly garage near you they may have a thread chaser you can borrow, these push the thread back into shape without removing much material.

You can buy them but they are not cheap cheap.

My local machine shop fitted Time Serts in my Z900 A4 head as they were too far gone, they cost a wallet wrenching £25 each to be done! Head off job though.

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#3 PostAuthor: jimmock » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:32 pm

I would think anything that creates swarf dropping down in the combustion chamber would mean a head off??

Number 2 and 3 are not the easiest to get to in situ.
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#4 PostAuthor: hillbilly » Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:31 pm

put piston to top,then lay some cotton in on top of piston.that should catch and hold ant bits of ali.
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#5 PostAuthor: andyb1962 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:42 pm

I assume you mean from exhaust outlet or how else do you get the cotton in and out ?
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#6 PostAuthor: warren3200gt » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:02 pm

You need to stop any crud ending up in the cylinder. Chasing or re-cutting the thread or cutting then helicoiling will create swarf.
The only safe way to do it is taking the head off.

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#7 PostAuthor: hillbilly » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:32 pm

one cotton ball pushed down plug hole so it sits under were the shite will go,cotton is a good grabber of fine stuff,it goes in it,and will still be there when pulled out.
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#8 PostAuthor: z1bman » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:38 pm

there is no need to remove the head to do a heli coil if you have the correct tools & it only takes 15 minutes. see post below

http://www.z1ownersclub.co.uk/forum/vie ... sc&start=0

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#9 PostAuthor: kas750 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:39 pm

Personally I wouldn't give it a 2nd thought worrying about doing it in situ..

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#10 PostAuthor: big green bus » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:45 pm

I have used a timecert (I think that is what they are called) just covered the tap in grease and used an airline had no problems

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#11 PostAuthor: kev edwards » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:50 pm

If you just want to chase the thread, a little thing my pops showed me years ago was to file a slot up across the threads of an old plug, then do as hillbilly says, screw the old plug in carefully and this will chase the threads, he was an army fitter and sometimes things had to be done in the field, failing that timesert

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#12 PostAuthor: KeithZ1R » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:54 pm

if all you want to do is chase the thread

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/prod ... -040210261
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#13 PostAuthor: ZedHead » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:44 am

KeithZ1R wrote:if all you want to do is chase the thread

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/prod ... -040210261


Now that is a handy piece of kit

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#14 PostAuthor: PAULJAC47 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:06 am

kev edwards wrote:If you just want to chase the thread, a little thing my pops showed me years ago was to file a slot up across the threads of an old plug, then do as hillbilly says, screw the old plug in carefully and this will chase the threads, he was an army fitter and sometimes things had to be done in the field, failing that timesert


Yep i have used that method with some success,also used a stepped 14mm tap that come with a Helicoil set,took the head off with that though...
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#15 PostAuthor: Z1parR » Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:06 pm

I use one of these Sealey reverse thread chasers , it's a decent bit of kit and no bits drop in .


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