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Engine number / Frame match
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 3:00 pm
Author: Jay1969
My Z900 A4 frame is a UK one, but the engine is a KZ900B1
My question is: To match the engine numbers closest to the frame numbers,
what's the ideal gap in production time between the frame and engine,
how far back or ahead of the frame did Kawasaki mate an engine to it's destined frame month
before complete build and export to UK?
(The frame is early 1976)
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 3:27 pm
Author: kz900B1
Hi Jay,The 900LTD's were assembled in the US .So it could be they were given frame/engine numbers once they were assembled in the US.
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 5:05 pm
Author: Jay1969
kz900B1 wrote:Hi Jay,The 900LTD's were assembled in the US .So it could be they were given frame/engine numbers once they were assembled in the US.
Not so, because the Z900 A4 frame I have was definitely made in Japan factory early 1976, as it doesn't have the US 'KZ' prefix on the headstock.
Between 1976 to 2013, the engine has been swapped out to a KZ900B1 LTD engine.
Ideally, I'd like a close matching Japan factory Z900 A4 engine for my early
1976 Japan factory Z900 A4 frame.
My Z900 A4 frame number is 099***
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 6:11 pm
Author: A1John
Enjoy your bike for what it is, whatever engine you put in the frame no matter how close or " correct " the numbers are it will never be correct unless you find the actual engine it left the factory with.
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 8:36 pm
Author: jimmock
Jay,
I've brought up a "similar" thread earlier.
Here is the link.
http://www.z1ownersclub.co.uk/forum/vie ... me+numbers
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 8:55 pm
Author: mick znone
why not get an z900b frame Jay, be a much cheaper way to marry them up
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:23 pm
Author: Jay1969
mick z1a wrote:why not get an z900b frame Jay, be a much cheaper way to marry them up
Yeah but if I did that, there wouldn't be as many rivets to fail your
uncompromising rivet counting
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:28 pm
Author: Jay1969
Cheers Jimmock,
but blow me... that thread is short! How is it that it's not had the reserection treatment for 4 years?!
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:33 pm
Author: jimmock
Jay1969 wrote:Cheers Jimmock,
but blow me... that thread is short! How is it that it's not had the reserection treatment for 4 years?!
Jay,
I had similar thoughts a few times on here.
SERIOUSLY IMPORTANT stuff and not much input from others??
But then on the other hand, next week there might be 6 pages of input into something else serious???
Maybe a bit like ebay, I suppose???
On another serious note,
Can you expand on what you actually meant by "blow me"??
I'm sort of all mixed up with it???
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:43 pm
Author: Jay1969
Jimmock,
Re: "blow me!", well it's just a southerner slang thing I suppose.
eg. "Cor blimey guvnor, blow me!". Nothing serious
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:54 pm
Author: jimmock
Jay1969 wrote:Jimmock,
Re: "blow me!", well it's just a southerner slang thing I suppose.
eg. "Cor blimey guvnor, blow me!". Nothing serious
Jay,
Where I come from "blow me" means considerably more than that!!!
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:34 am
Author: Jay1969
A1John wrote:Enjoy your bike for what it is, whatever engine you put in the frame no matter how close or " correct " the numbers are it will never be correct unless you find the actual engine it left the factory with.
I really am happy with it Graham, just would be ideal if the engine was original UK market as well, and while I'm not a dedicated purist,
I'm passionate about the history of all things Zed, so my question stems from interest as much as idealism, not to be confused with purism... hope that makes sense
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 6:48 am
Author: mick znone
jimmock wrote:Jay1969 wrote:Jimmock,
Re: "blow me!", well it's just a southerner slang thing I suppose.
eg. "Cor blimey guvnor, blow me!". Nothing serious
Jay,
Where I come from "blow me" means considerably more than that!!!
it does down here in the far south Jimbo, i think they get a bit mixed up in "middle england"
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 2:14 pm
Author: freddyz1r
mick z1a wrote:jimmock wrote:Jay1969 wrote:Jimmock,
Re: "blow me!", well it's just a southerner slang thing I suppose.
eg. "Cor blimey guvnor, blow me!". Nothing serious
Jay,
Where I come from "blow me" means considerably more than that!!!
it does down here in the far south Jimbo, i think they get a bit mixed up in "middle england"
I definitely live in "middle england" and it definitely means 'considerably' more here
Jimmock, are you sure that you haven't scared Jay off
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 2:10 am
Author: Garn 1
Jay, years ago I started a data base of Engine /Frame numbers, mostly concentrating on Z1, Z1A & Z1B. I did however add a few Z900-A4.
You may be able to interpolate this list to find what you are after.
Frame # ...... Engine # (Manf Date).
086291..... 086447
095495..... 099934
095516..... 099938
096865..... 102930 (10/75)
096924..... 103024 (11/75)
096953..... 103061
098298..... 105531
098337..... xxxxxx (12/75)
100289..... 108803
100201..... 109892
101853..... 112075 (2/76)
104273..... 116679 (3/76)
108047..... 123931 (5/76)
116967..... 137289 (8/76)
Also, there were 29090 Z900-A4 manufactured
RegardZ