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I put a new Exide battery on my gpz11 ut about 4 / 5 months ago and i had to bump start the bike yesterday because it was flat , so when i took the battery out to charge and check it ,it was completely dry !! ?
what would cause this ?

I do use a trickle mate 500 charger, when left for any length of time 2 / 3 days or more ?

Also is it worth me trying to get it back to life with new distilled water and a good long slow charge ?

The battery has had it....you need an eletorlyte to make it work again....and in all probability it's got hot and warped the pates.

check the charging voltage. most likely over charging & boiling the battery dry

garyd wrote:The battery has had it....you need an eletorlyte to make it work again....and in all probability it's got hot and warped the pates.

What is "eletorlyte" ? it might save me another 50 quid for a new battery ?

eletorlyte = SULFURIC ACID

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Special-Offer ... 1274100821

z1bman wrote:eletorlyte = SULFURIC ACID

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Special-Offer ... 1274100821

Cheers , i never knew it was called "electrolyte" ?

This shows a bit more detail

http://inventors.about.com/od/bstartinv ... -Works.htm

You can just try distilled water in your dry battery,but as stated the plates are probably warped through over charging by your battery charger giving out too much voltage or more likely your voltage regulator is duff on the bike,you should get around 14.5 volts dc at 3k revs across the battery if all is ok,
Cheers PaulJ

PAULJAC47 wrote:This shows a bit more detail

http://inventors.about.com/od/bstartinv ... -Works.htm

You can just try distilled water in your dry battery,but as stated the plates are probably warped through over charging by your battery charger giving out too much voltage or more likely your voltage regulator is duff on the bike,you should get around 14.5 volts dc at 3k revs across the battery if all is ok,
Cheers PaulJ

Cheers ,i had a quick browse through the link about batteries .
What i have done is ordered a cheap battery for now 28 quid delivered ,and also i have my old original battery on the bike now , the new one that i took off will be filled with new acid and recharged ? it has got to be worth a try ?
So in the end i will have a "shed load" of batteries and still be bump starting it and also will check ou-put from terminals ?,but the tacho volt gauge reads 13-14 volts ??

When they run dry - its only the WATER element that evaporates - the acid will still be in it - so just ad dostilled water only to top it up

Probably fooked anyhow

Pigford wrote:When they run dry - its only the WATER element that evaporates - the acid will still be in it - so just ad dostilled water only to top it up

Probably fooked anyhow

I re-filled it with DOstilled water ! and see what happens ? i am learning loads of new words

snotie1965 wrote:

Pigford wrote:When they run dry - its only the WATER element that evaporates - the acid will still be in it - so just ad dostilled water only to top it up

Probably fooked anyhow

I re-filled it with DOstilled water ! and see what happens ? i am learning loads of new words

Yeah - thats the cheap version of distilled water

This is a normal lead/acid battery you are talking about - not one of maintenance free YTX/GTX/CTX types ?

Those are meant to appear dry - all the eloctrolyte on those is absorbed into the glass matting surrounding the plates. For ferks sake - never open or add water/acid to those after the initial fill ......

Charlie wrote:This is a normal lead/acid battery you are talking about - not one of maintenance free YTX/GTX/CTX types ?

Those are meant to appear dry - all the eloctrolyte on those is absorbed into the glass matting surrounding the plates. For ferks sake - never open or add water/acid to those after the initial fill ......

Yes they are normal type batteries , with tops that come out and a high and low mark for topping up .

I did have a look at the new type lithion dry batteries but they are £200 + and are still not fully tested ? (not good in the cold) apparently ?

snotie1965 wrote:

Charlie wrote:This is a normal lead/acid battery you are talking about - not one of maintenance free YTX/GTX/CTX types ?

Those are meant to appear dry - all the eloctrolyte on those is absorbed into the glass matting surrounding the plates. For ferks sake - never open or add water/acid to those after the initial fill ......

Yes they are normal type batteries , with tops that come out and a high and low mark for topping up .

I did have a look at the new type lithion dry batteries but they are £200 + and are still not fully tested ? (not good in the cold) apparently ?

I got a lithium ion battery for just over £100

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