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I'm trying to find out the colour code for an orange/brown 1972 Z1. Had a paint job done, but the brown is not right and the design on the tank is also incorrect. Does anyone know where I can get these details?
Mark B

Hi Wealth of knowledge on here,you need to get the help of on of the lads who does paint for members on here,the subject of what are the correct colours and shades for these old bikes are shark infested waters,the Hesse book is a good guide,i am sure members who are much more informed than me will be along shortly.Welcome on board ....Paul J

Hello Mark,
here is a link which explains how the paint was done. http://www.paintworkz.com/Paint.html
The design is done in black and white - the white goes on first then the black. Then a coat of fine silver/grey flake in clear lacquer (I think its about 200 m pearl) goes all over. The top coat is either orange or yellow candy, depending on if you have an orange/brown bike or a yellow and green bike. Too many orange coats will make the colour too red. Similarly too many coats of yelow will make the black too green. The cany needs to be thin enough to let the flakes do their job. the Finally a few coats of clear to finish.
The lines are important and most painters seem to get wrong. The modern tapes are slightly different widths to the ones used originally, and I think a lot of painters use tapes which are pre-cut to do the pinstripes because its easier - unfortunately they are not correct.
The outer stripe should be 5.5mm, the inner gap should be 8mm. If you are going to do it yourself, I can let you know where I found my materials if you PM me.

welcome to the site
Glyn

no such tape was used , i have had lines go from 4mm to 11mm on the same tank,if tape was used for the gaps this would not happen ,seen loads of original paint work , lines all over the place

I agree that the gap was done by hand and on the tanks I have measured up, comes out to about 8mm all round, so thats what you should aim for - unless like Hutch says, you want lines all over the place.
I put down the 8mm tape fist as a guide - (I don't do dozens of tanks a day, like the kawasaki painters must have, so I cheat) - and put the 5.5mm tape on the outside edge and mask off the area the other side. Then pull of the 8mm tape.
Like I told Hutch, I don't paint tanks for anyone other than my own bikes, but I'm willing to offer advice to anyone who asks.

so just use standard 6mm easy .

you can get 5.5mm here
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-Enduro-3M-FINE-LINE-MASKING-TAPE-5-5mm-AT1-CT1-DT1-RT1-JT1-68-71-GREEN-/281045580310?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item416f9f3a16&vxp=mtr

-uck me so ya can .but can ya gat 4mm going to 11mm

hutch wrote:-uck me so ya can .but can ya gat 4mm going to 11mm

who wants that?

i give in

good luck if you are attempting to do the job yourself as most professional painters get it wrong .it is not the type of job for an amateur give the job to someone who is dedicated to his job preferably someone who is into bikes. it is these guys who can spend the time to do the job as it should be done not some car painter who will try to match the colours from a car equivalent.
if i where you i would use someone like the previous poster hutch who has a very good reputation or flying tiger who are both members on this site

I agree with Z1bman. If your only going to be doing one bike to do and you don't have the set up or experience, it's definitely not worth the trouble.

C'mon chaps,

If its a 72 bike I assume its rootbeer colour rather than the jaffa paint.
At what frame number did the scheme change.
Regards
Steve

wilsonsjw11 wrote:If its a 72 bike I assume its rootbeer colour rather than the jaffa paint.
At what frame number did the scheme change.
Regards
Steve

Ok what's the difference in root beer and Jaffa colours?
I thought they were the same but as always things ain't always as simple...