Page 1 of 2

have i made a major error?

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:09 pm
Author: captaincaveman
I got my bike back together with the new tyres, the old rear was a 140-70-18 and i wanted to reduce to a 130, which i did, both are pirelli demon sport, i realised that the front 100-90-19 and the 130-70-18 rear are different profiles

the original profiles were different before so assumed nothing wrong, now ive been looking at other gpz1100's and they run 90's front and rear

Have i just wasted my money on the rear tyre :oops: or will the different profiles be ok together?

What im trying to ask is how dodgy is it?

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:41 pm
Author: tlc
A 130/80 would have been better although my J has a 120 on.

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:00 pm
Author: captaincaveman
Is it ok to use or is it going to be risky?

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:21 pm
Author: tlc
A130/70 should be on a 3.5 inch rim to sit correctly.

The problem you will have is the profile of the tyre will be pinched. To see the effect of this take a tyre that is off a rim and simulate narrow and wide rims with your hands.

You will see what that does to the profile of the tyre and what effect it will have on the contact patch.

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:40 pm
Author: Mark Tiller
I would not use it, it would look strange on too

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:50 pm
Author: captaincaveman
Damn £100 wasted, so will a 130/80 be definitely ok?

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:15 pm
Author: Mark Tiller
i have always gone 120/90/18

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:21 pm
Author: captaincaveman
Yeah I'm kind of thinking that now, weird question but is it possible that a 120 would actually look wider than this 130 being pinched, because it looks really thin almost too domed

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:23 pm
Author: captaincaveman
Mark Tiller wrote:i have always gone 120/90/18


Is that on a gpz1100 or a zed?

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:35 pm
Author: Al
Captain, just done 50 laps of Donnington on new Avon Roadriders.
Rear is 130 / 80 and the front 100 / 90.
Previously i had 130 / 80 rear BT45 and the Roadrider behaved itself exactly the same if not better for the same size tyre.
The rear wheel is a GPZ 1100 B like yours and this is on a J model.
The standard J1 wheel is narrower again at the back.
No wobbles, rear wheel steering, just the standard front understeer it has always had on the road.
Youre right, it does look narrow.

Hope this is of some use.

AL

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:36 pm
Author: complete zedness
I have run 130/80/18 rear with a 110/90/19 front on my Z1B for years and have not had any problems. That said, the wheel rims are Birrani's, the front is the same width as the standard front rim, but the rear rim is wider.

A narrower rim may change the profile as suggested by tlc

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:14 pm
Author: captaincaveman
it's confusing to a newbie, cause I'd assume that the profile wouldn't affect the rim, you'd think if the wheel could take a 130 then it could take any 130

See where my confusion lies, expensive lesson to learn lol

So it looks like quite a few people have used 130/80's without an issue, does tyre manufacturers make any difference, will a pirelli demon sport be ok if a bt45 is?

Sorry for being a pain, just can't afford another mistake lol

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:25 am
Author: Big Fluff
captaincaveman wrote:it's confusing to a newbie, cause I'd assume that the profile wouldn't affect the rim, you'd think if the wheel could take a 130 then it could take any 130

See where my confusion lies, expensive lesson to learn lol

So it looks like quite a few people have used 130/80's without an issue, does tyre manufacturers make any difference, will a pirelli demon sport be ok if a bt45 is?

Sorry for being a pain, just can't afford another mistake lol


Captain - You have PM regarding the tyre you no longer need :wink:

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:13 pm
Author: captaincaveman
Big Fluff wrote:
captaincaveman wrote:it's confusing to a newbie, cause I'd assume that the profile wouldn't affect the rim, you'd think if the wheel could take a 130 then it could take any 130

See where my confusion lies, expensive lesson to learn lol

So it looks like quite a few people have used 130/80's without an issue, does tyre manufacturers make any difference, will a pirelli demon sport be ok if a bt45 is?

Sorry for being a pain, just can't afford another mistake lol


Captain - You have PM regarding the tyre you no longer need :wink:



pmd back dude :D

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:47 pm
Author: KWACKERZ1
Have always ran a 130 on my zed no problems even though the tyre is oversized for the rim.

Save your money and run it , if you dont like it change it later.

Unless your Eddie Lawson you probably wont notice the difference.!! :lol: