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Z650 engine mounting bolts

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:24 pm
Author: m1ks
Quickie here guys.
Looking for someone with a 650 to have a quick shufty and verify something for me.
While topping up the oil today I noticed a loose lower rear engine mount nut, (the one on the long bolt which runs from behind clutch cable case to right hand engine), so nipped it up, as you'd expect, I the had a quick check of the others for peace of mind.
Found all four of the front, upper and lower, weren't 'fully' tightened in, now they were tight and nothing was going anywhere as the bolts thread into locking nuts, they just weren't tight up against the drilled casting on the engine block.
Could someone verify for me that they should indeed have the locknuts tight against the casing where they slot into the channel? (i'll post pics tomorrow if this description is a bit unclear)
The top left one stripped on tightening, have retapped and set with threadlock for now but will be replacing that one hopefully this weekend.

Cheers

Mike

nuts!

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:23 am
Author: KWACKERZ1
Mick pics would be good as my 650 engine mountings are all tight against the casings, so am usnure what channel youre describing.
Cheers

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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:44 pm
Author: m1ks
Images showing bolt and channel as described on left side mounting plate, same layout underneath with front bottom bolts.
Cheers

Image

engine mounts

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:10 pm
Author: KWACKERZ1
That has got to be wrong as any gap there would be not good, but my 650 a B does not have short bolts like yours.

All the ones I have seen have bolts that go all the way through from side to side.

have a look at te kawsaki exploded diags to find out what you should have for your model.

https://www.kawasakiepc.com/SystemSearc ... N=86336264

If you need new bolts try phil denton engineering his stainless ones will be better and probably cheaper than standard ones.
Hope this helps

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:50 pm
Author: zed1015
All the z650's i've owned have the same captive nut arrangment as yours and the locknut should indeed be up tight against the casting as you rightly thought.

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:24 pm
Author: m1ks
Thanks the both of you.
Have a straight through on the rear and if memory serves my Z750 chop was like this one.
I thought that was the case, just need to get replacements for the pictured one and the same side lower, (possibly paranoia on my part but when I tried to tighten the bolt appeared to turn but the threaded bar underneath didn't look to be imitating it, this behaviour has never been good in my previous experience). :)
Anyone happen to know where I can get reasonable priced replacements or have any originals laying around, (never had to buy mounting bolts for anything before but they don't need to be special high tensile or anything do they? i.e. if I need bolts from my local hardware store will suffice)

Re the link, thanks for that, would love to be able to check out the frame and mountings but it requires a log in, the link shows login expired and root page has login but no means of registration?

Cheers,

Mike

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:11 am
Author: KWACKERZ1
http://www.kawasaki.com/DefaultFrame.as ... EHTABS%3d1

Try the above or just www.kawasaki.com and follow owners info to get the part diags for your model. If you still struggle let me know the year and model and I'll look up the part nos for you.

www.phildentonengineering.com

Can make you some,

and zed power can order you originals.

Hope this helps.

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:16 pm
Author: irhobotolo
Have to agree that they should be up tight with no gap.
If you are getting new bolts i would advise against using a hardware store as supplier. Should be easy to get originals off Ebay or stainless. Use a torque wrench on replacement.

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:28 pm
Author: m1ks
Thanks, have checked the diagram, little confusing, looks like one long bolt lower and two long bolts upper? Not sure if that should be just one or two short ones as it has, will check the measurements as per the page when I get a minute.
Have e-mailed PhilDenton for prices too, thanks for the help.

Mike

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:58 am
Author: zedrider
the zed 650s i have have a long bolt all the way from one side to the outher . i wouldent use the system shown in the picture as your asking the engine case to tigten the nut .