1972 Z1 Paint Job

[wilsonsjw11]

As I said the colour is not the problem its the lining that so many get wrong.
Look at PAINTWORKZ own work for correct lining.
Regards
Steve

[dixiethedog]

I found the colours for the candy z1 to be a pearl white base coat,a black base,a gold pearl top coat then z1candytone orange followed by clear coat.
Part numbers.
Pearl white K41030-029
black K41030-32
gold pearl K41030-31
orange K41030-027
clear K41030-033
Info from the kawasaki USA paint chart part number K9995-200

Ive the paint info on a PDF file,but Ive no idea how to share it?????
It covers a load of old paint jobs.

Ive seen somewhere,a load of pics where people have held tape measures over their paint stripes/lines on z1 bodywork,and they do seem to vary a lot.
Ive managed to do some searching about,and have found the wonderful site that I downloaded the PDF chart from for 1972-1973 Kawasaki models.
This one.

http://www.kawasaki-z-classik.com/forum ... f=33&t=512

Check it out.

[dixiethedog]

Incidentally,I thought Id add this. I done a good few paint jobs over the year's,and have found that by using 3M fine lining tape (masking tape) you get perfect crisp lines with no bleed thru. The 3M curves nicely over panels too.
Im working on a bit of a back log of jobs for friends at the moment,but when they are done and i have some time to myself,im gonna have a bash at a candy paintjob on a spare z1 tank i have here. Whats the worst that can happen?? LOL. Paint isnt rocket science,so when I make a start,I'll take a load of photo's and discuss what Im doing. It'll be especially interesting to hear people shout out when I lay the tape out for stripes,as it seems people have their own ideas as to what is correct,and whats not? LOL.
It reminds me of one of my other hobbies (guitars),where people would get all excited about (on Gibson Les Paul guitars)a screen ink printed logo position on the headstock. Gibson employed a group of old ladies who did the job,and no two were ever exactly the same. Did Kawasaki have a group of old ladies working in the paint shop back in the early 70's?

[dixiethedog]

Tailpieces.
http://www.kawasaki-z-classik.com/forum ... f=20&t=217

[Steve Cooke]

As I said the colour is not the problem its the lining that so many get wrong.
Look at PAINTWORKZ own work for correct lining.
Regards
Steve

Other than in a general way there is no such thing as correct lining, the original as in lining and colour varies from the early Z1 to the Z1000 which is pretty obvious that it would taking into account the method of application, even the stripe joint positions can vary. I have seen and had quite a lot of original paint items that are quite different.

[wilsonsjw11]

When the lining is wrong on a Z1/A/B it stands out like a sore thumb.
Regards
Steve

[malmojoe]

I've got 2 original tanks, one is late 72 the other early 73 , they both have the 5.5mm outside line and the gap averages 8mm. The route of the lines are virtually identical. I'm sure there was a lot of variation considering the numbers of bikes rolling off the lines, but my two are very consistent and that's what I use as my template. If two random tanks confer, I assume that they represent the datum.

I also wanted to say that I carefully wet and dry'd down to the flake on one tank and they are silver grey and not gold, as Hutch mentioned earlier.
With regards to paintworkz - I purchased flakes from him for 2 tanks I sprayed, but they are the wrong size - too big. The original flake is more like what you buy for pearl spray jobs - the regular size (off the top of my head it's 200 mu).

I also have a theory about the 'lighter' 72 tanks - although I have never seen one. The more coats of candy, the more opaque the colour becomes, the browner the black becomes - perhaps they decided to do one less coat per tank set - that would make a huge saving on materials and time, and leave the black darker. Just an idea, but it makes sense if you think about it.

[A1John]

I know of two people who had PAINTWORKZ re paint their 73 z1s going back a couple of years, one had his set repainted the other sold his and bought a PMC set.

[wilsonsjw11]

That's interesting John what were the problems encountered?
Has anyone on here used Heinz Loblien?
Regards
Steve

[hutch]

ok then show me were i said they use gold flake ,if you take the time to look i said silver flake \ silver not gold /

hutch

[A1John]

That's interesting John what were the problems encountered?
Has anyone on here used Heinz Loblien?
Regards
Steve

Steve, one problem was the vast amount of clear coat and the candy was very prominent, a lot like early H**** candy also there were issues with the lines.

[hutch]

72 /73 bikes were painted with the same base ,flake , not pearl and kandy ,it is the flake which changes the colour lighter or darker adding more kandy would darken the finish ,dont know why it as got to this tit for tat which is going on ,as the jaffa or rootbeer being different colours look on paintworkz site and ralph states himself that they are the same colour, so if ya done trust me take a look .not often i post about anything on this site but the shit ya get when ya do is like being at school . i have been painting 903 zeds for around twenty years and been there and done it , got letters from ralph himself \ paintworkz / and also colour chips of him years ago and seen his work .if anybody wants to come to my work and take a look at some original paint work or my colour chips ya welcom many have . seen more original paint work than most and have around forty tanks here myself, as to lining i allways have original paint about a foot away from the tank im lineing its the only way i think, memory pics or measurements no good .so come on all you experts prove me wrong . one thing for sure i can 100% prove what im saying is right .feel sorry for the new lads coming into the world of painting zeds ,couple of em in this club and both good lads have a chat wi em at stafford each year and are both learning fast just a pity that most people just look at the paint work they do just to pick faults as they do with mine ,so before ya all pick faults try it yourself . you trying to tell me how its done is like me trying

[hutch]

to teach rick brett about h2s , not going to happen is it lads .

waiting .


hutch

[hutch]

As I said the colour is not the problem its the lining that so many get wrong.
Look at PAINTWORKZ own work for correct lining.
Regards
Steve

Other than in a general way there is no such thing as correct lining, the original as in lining and colour varies from the early Z1 to the Z1000 which is pretty obvious that it would taking into account the method of application, even the stripe joint positions can vary. I have seen and had quite a lot of original paint items that are quite different.

ya right there mate .

[jimmock]

I'm even more confused now???

My head hurts.