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#16 PostAuthor: nanno » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:51 am

absolutely, as I have a Z1000J-frontend or in fact it's a Z1100ST at the moment...

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#17 PostAuthor: martinz1000r » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:38 pm

Just realised I have Tokico on this bike and not Nissin. Nissin are on my Moto Martin and that uses a complete Bandit front end so no adjusting needed. The Tokico are also OEM on many Suzuki so if any us here you go:

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It is made of 10mm plate and the spacers between plate and caliper are 12mm deep.

I'll take one off if I get time tonight and try and produce a scale drawing for you if you want.
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#18 PostAuthor: nanno » Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:17 pm

What kind of brake disks are those, they appear to be a straight fit to the Z1000R-rim ? :shock: They look a lot like SUZUKI full floating disks of an early GSXR1100 or the like ?

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#19 PostAuthor: nanno » Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:58 pm

VN1500 :shock:

Metalgear part number: 21.052... wow... a bolt on full floating brake disk. Uh oh... I can see some nice brake mods coming up. :twisted:
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#20 PostAuthor: martinz1000r » Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:47 pm

How did you know that? I had no idea where they come from!
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#21 PostAuthor: nanno » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:10 pm

As I tend to tell my lil' students in school... I'm a teacher, I have to know everything, especially the things that are impossible to know.

Nah, seriously. Assuming, that this was a standard Z1000J/R front wheel, I knew it had to be something special (150mm bolt circle, 7 bolts - something only Kawasaki did).

Then out comes the metalgear brakes catalogue, which has some beautiful lists. So first I researched the number of the Z1000J brake disks and then they do have a beautiful list of all their brake disks, ordered by outer diameter and divided in solid and floating disks.

Judging by your caliper, I knew it had to be a touch bigger, so all I had to do was to find a floating brake disk with 7 bolt holes on a 150mm bolt circle and with a free inner diameter of 130mm. That's how I found out the number stated above and then it was just a matter of tracing, which bikes where equipped with this brake disk.

Once that was done it was also easy to find out, that you're using Tokicos either off a: ZXR, ZZR or a Zephyr 1100.

The best choice of the list would be the ZZR600, as they are used on 300mm disks, both the ZXR and Zephyr 1100 use 310mm disks, so the pads will be run in slightly differently. (And although they all are the same calipers, the ones for smaller bikes are significantly cheaper...)

I guess... you owe me a beer for solving the riddle. :twisted:

Btw.: I just ordered exactly the same calipers and two used disks and will use them on my Z1000J.

So I will have to blatantly copy your adapter... but for a Z1100ST/Z1100R set of forks.

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#22 PostAuthor: martinz1000r » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:45 am

I am impressed! To really earn that beer I have a CMA wheel that I bought off another club member and cant find discs for as I have no idea what it's origin is. If I give you dimensions would you be able to look that up in your magic book?
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#23 PostAuthor: nanno » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:01 am

Sure... but you can do that yourself just as easy:

http://www.metalgear.com.au/

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#24 PostAuthor: $am » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:25 am

I have EN500 Calipers. I think same as GPX ones on my H2C a big improvement. So i know it will work fine on a Big Zed.
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Re: Brakes

#25 PostAuthor: $am » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:28 am

$am wrote:I have EN500 Calipers. I think same as GPX ones on my H2C a big improvement. So i know it will work fine on a Big Zed.


Converter plate looks simple.
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#26 PostAuthor: KWACKERZ1 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:19 am

Just had a quick look at the catalogue and it says z1000a1 1978 discs have 9 bolts!!!

:shock:

I had best go and look for the other 5 then!!




It looks a good guide and would be useful tool but dont take it as gospel!!
I am dissappointed as I thought it would help me solve a problem of mine with brakes.

Does anyone have the measurements for a standard z1000a1/a2 disc to hand?

Outside Diameter
Inside Diameter
Bolt Hole Circumference
Bolt Hole Quantity
Offset=

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#27 PostAuthor: nanno » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:54 pm

I just checked regarding the Z1000 A1/A2 disks, but the measurements are clearly wrong, as I remember them being offset... or were those the SR500 disks. Sorry my roundcase Z1000 days were a few days ago.

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#28 PostAuthor: sled » Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:17 am

Thats a cool site

Any one know whether you can fit a larger diameter disk to 76 z900 (single disk) i know PMC make it. But thought there might be a near match. Am looking around 310

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#29 PostAuthor: JohnC » Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:10 pm

I've Nissin 4 pots from a GSXR1100K on my A1 with spoked wheels. Not sure this is much help though as the brackets are designed to use Spondon 320mm discs? These ones were milled to remove the Nissin logo but I've since replaced them with standard GSXR1100K calipers with the Nissin logo still on them. I also use small round alloy spacers to space the calipers. The fork legs were also helicoiled so that I don't need to use back nuts.

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