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Electric start 1000 a1

#1 PostAuthor: Hasbeen » Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:20 pm

z1000 a1 - Wont start off the button but kicks fine.
Any advice as to what to check in what order please?
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#2 PostAuthor: Mark Tiller » Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:59 pm

have you the clutch switch fitted (must be pulled in)

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#3 PostAuthor: Yellow » Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:20 pm

This will happen if the battery is not 100%.
Fit a battery booster pack and try again.

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Re: Electric start 1000 a1

#4 PostAuthor: Ginger Bear » Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:30 pm

Hasbeen wrote:z1000 a1 - Wont start off the button but kicks fine.
Any advice as to what to check in what order please?
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#5 PostAuthor: Garn 1 » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:02 pm

Could be solenoid gone? Listen to hear a click as the solenoid throws its high current switch, when juice is on.
Awaiting answer to GB's query!

As Yellow says, once starter is turning it takes most of the current from the coils, for them to fire, with a low battery
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#6 PostAuthor: tlc » Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:51 am

Check the multi plugs under the left side panel for corrosion.
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#7 PostAuthor: Redbeard » Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:55 am

Corrosion/dodgy connection in the switch or where it plugs into the loom? Fuse? :oops:

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#8 PostAuthor: mick znone » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:02 am

looks like he started it and buggered off :roll:
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#9 PostAuthor: Hasbeen » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:17 pm

Sorry guys been away from a network connection. The bike starts fine off kickstart. Button start was fine til I I filled up wi petrol then nothing. There is no click from solenoid. I think the battery is healthy enough. I'm suspecting the button or solenoid but wondered what order to check stuff?. Help is really appreciated

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#10 PostAuthor: Hasbeen » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:54 pm

Just got chance to have a look @ this. I'm suspecting starter relay asit ddoesn't click when clutch pulled and button pressed. I have checked the feed to the relay and power is there. Would you replace the starter relay?. Any help or advice appreciated

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#11 PostAuthor: z1bman » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:12 pm

have you got 12 volts at the black wire at the solenoid when you push the starter button? the thin wire not the heavy duty wire that goes to the starter

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#12 PostAuthor: Serps » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:21 pm

First I would test the Sarter motor, short out the two large connectors on the relay with a suitably insulated tool (spark). If the starter cranks then that is ok.

You say you have current to the relay so a assume you have a meter or simalar, put ammeter between the two small wires on the relay and press the starter button. If you see voltage then you are getting power to the relay so it would indicate the relay is faulty.

If you don't get voltage then it looks like the wiring loom or switch. You could apply power to the + small wire on the relay to see if it works just connect a small piece of wire between battery and dab it onto the + connector.

If you don't feel comfortable shorting out terminals leave it to someone else who is.

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#13 PostAuthor: Hasbeen » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:52 pm

Tried the shorting out trick and yes starter spins fine.
I can only get 6 volts (was expecting 12) at the small relay wires so was a bit confused. There is no click when I press starter button but a definite voltage switch. Gotta be the starter relay hasn't it?. Do I go Z-power £40 plus post or wemoto £17 ?
Thanks for the advice guys

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#14 PostAuthor: Hasbeen » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:10 pm

Absolute mystery to me now. If I attach a wire to the solenoid + the motor turns over fine. I then check and I have a voltage to the plus wire but its fluctuating between 6 and 11 volts, probably not enough to pull the relay in?

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#15 PostAuthor: Hasbeen » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:21 pm

TLC gets the pint for the correct diagnosis. Dodgy connection in multiplug. Sorted now guys and thanks for the help and advice. No doubt I will be back asking similar questions very soon!!


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