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#1 PostAuthor: gpjes » Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:00 am

Hi, All.
So in my job I come across small plant equipment, I have been gleefully fitting new carbs to 13/11/9/6 HP small plant motors, which come in, starting great on choke(sometimes) running for vary amounts of seconds ok then cutting out! Answer fit new carb don't fook about send it back running with a bill, ok so what's this got to do with our Kwacks well, how many of us are having carbs cleaned? To restore correct running? How many of you know of petrol tanks going rusty leaking from seams, pipes splitting and stuff going brittle? Would you dream of putting today's so called greener 95 octane in a H or B11/ A Uni,if the answer is yes then you have my sympathies coz if you don't use it for six months usually less!!! It will bugger things. All my stuff now runs on VPlus from the local Shell garage so far no problems but the run of the mill stuff is absolutely shite so let me get this one in before I get a knock on the door from the men in white coats! What about the sale of goods act? Why do we have to pay more for the privilege of being able to pursue the joy of motorcycling? By running on a higher octane they're gleefully taking more out of our pockets for the same thing, I love big old air cooled Kwackas and yes they were designed to run on UNLEADED, NOT TODAY'S SORRY EXCUSE FOR FUEL.
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#2 PostAuthor: Charlie » Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:22 am

Or you can run the normal unleaded crap and just add 10ml of this stuff to each tank full.

http://www.manhattanmotorcycles.co.uk/p ... iser-250ml

My bikes stood over winter with zero corrosion damage this time, both fired at the very first touch of the button.

Even my 2010 675 runs better with this in the tank. It is more than just a normal stabiliser, it also enables the bike to burn the ethanol portion which generally would give a reduced burn. Hence the term booster in the title ...

Given a bottle will treat over 60 gallons of fuel, it is not even expensive either. Certainly cheaper then running on V Power or similar all the time :wink:

I now run it all the time in both my Zed and my Daytona.
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#3 PostAuthor: chrisu » Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:23 am

i run my bikes on 99 octane. Doesn't need it for the octane rating (well maybe the Z1) but no ethanol in it.

i did see in NZ their standard octane rating is 91 so it could be worse.........

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#4 PostAuthor: mick znone » Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:32 am

in my armstrong mt500 there is a soft metal lump rolling around, i guess its a piece of lead, is this not common practice then?
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#5 PostAuthor: Ginger Bear » Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:11 am

I've just ordered some. Works out cheaper from here...... :sou

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorex-Motor ... 2a34f8d463
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#6 PostAuthor: Charlie » Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:43 am

It is seriously good stuff GB, this stuff not only neutralises the water absorbent properties of Ethanol (which then forms acetic acid, which is what eats away at everything) it also stops fuel going off (stabilises it) and allows it to burn as cleanly it would were there no Ethanol present.

In 2012 even with fuel stabiliser in my tank, my plastic inline fuel filter still melted over winter storage. This year - it still looks like it did when I fitted it 6 months ago...

I tend to fill up before I park up, so the bike is always good to go with a full tank. Now I fill up as usual on the pumps, take it home - drop 10ml of this stuff in the tank and no matter how long it stands, it is still as fresh as when I put it in there.

As close to magic in a bottle as I think we are likely to find :)
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#7 PostAuthor: freddyz1r » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:05 pm

mick z1a wrote:in my armstrong mt500 there is a soft metal lump rolling around, i guess its a piece of lead, is this not common practice then?

not sure about the 'common practice' :( , but a mate of mine has a few ford cortinas ( they r is pride and joy :roll: ),he adds some little' lead'balls (5mm diameter?) into his fuel tank when he fills up.

Me, i don't have any balls rolling about,( but ,then again, i've never been a sailor :wink: )

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#8 PostAuthor: mick znone » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:12 pm

freddyz1r wrote:
mick z1a wrote:in my armstrong mt500 there is a soft metal lump rolling around, i guess its a piece of lead, is this not common practice then?

not sure about the 'common practice' :( , but a mate of mine has a few ford cortinas ( they r is pride and joy :roll: ),he adds some little' lead'balls (5mm diameter?) into his fuel tank when he fills up.

Me, i don't have any balls rolling about,( but ,then again, i've never been a sailor :wink: )
i guess i should check that it is a piece of lead, ive just gathered that it is.
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#9 PostAuthor: Charlie » Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:27 pm

Having lead (balls or otherwise) rolling about in the tank will do fook all to slow the acidic affects of Ethanol, nor will it make it burn any better, nor will it stop the fuel from going stale.
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#10 PostAuthor: snotie1965 » Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:42 pm

Ginger Bear wrote:I've just ordered some. Works out cheaper from here...... :sou

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorex-Motor ... 2a34f8d463


Sounds just the job , i have ordered some ,but i will ask a friend who works at the refinery in sothamton "Esso" i cant spell his job description ,but i know he is hands on when it comes to oils and various fuels ,i will see what he says about it all ? and it Will be unbiased and 100% true ! i will post again when i have more info !

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#11 PostAuthor: Pigford » Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:17 pm

I'm always very dubious about these so called "additives" :??

Many tests over the years have actually proved them (octane boosters) to be useless ..... except for extracting money out of us :!:

I'm not knocking your statement Charlie - but its just anecdotal, not scientifically proven, no matter what the makers claim!!! If it was that good we'd all have heard about it by now.

As for lead balls - thats all a bit "hit & miss" to my mind.

I drain my bikes if they're gonna be sitting inactive over winter - safest way.
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#12 PostAuthor: oldtimer » Sun Mar 23, 2014 3:11 pm


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#13 PostAuthor: Charlie » Sun Mar 23, 2014 3:11 pm

Do not mix this up with some of the dubious oil/fuel additive products that may perpetuate from our cousins across the pond. This stuff was only released last year, that's arguably why you have not heard of it.

The Motorex pedigree stands for itself. That's why they hold so many race wins in BSB, WSB, Moto2 and Moto3 (AFAIK, they have not had a MotoGP win yet).

They are a premium Swiss oil company. There are some fly by night companies about. Motorex are not one of them. Ask anyone you know that is involved with racing, the higher the level the better, about Motorex quality. This stuff genuinely delivers what it says it does. I purposely avoided the term Octane booster. It enables the fuel to burn cleanly and fully which will in turn give a small boost in power - but it is NOT an octane booster under the terms you describe.
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#14 PostAuthor: Charlie » Sun Mar 23, 2014 3:14 pm

oldtimer wrote:I have started using this http://www.wynns.uk.com/Product.aspx?p= ... ONS_DIESEL


That is just a regular fuel system cleaner :wink:
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#15 PostAuthor: oldtimer » Sun Mar 23, 2014 3:45 pm

Charlie wrote:
oldtimer wrote:I have started using this http://www.wynns.uk.com/Product.aspx?p= ... ONS_DIESEL


That is just a regular fuel system cleaner :wink:
Oh, better change it then, it does say it gets rid of water. :??


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