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#1 PostAuthor: steve bowdler » Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:51 pm

Had a little problem ! carb would not shut off when throttle released suspected cables but on removing cables carbs still sticking.
Removed carbs off bike and cleaned , noticed some crud on one of needle vales now the question how robust are these needles , will the tolerate a good scrub or best replaced ?

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#2 PostAuthor: Taffus » Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:00 pm

send the bits to me and I will lean it in my ultrasonic cleaner
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#3 PostAuthor: Pigford » Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:42 pm

Needles are quite tough - unless you bend the buggers...... unlike the brass Neddle Jets that wear faster :!:
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#4 PostAuthor: steve bowdler » Sat May 11, 2013 4:47 pm

OK problem sort of back ! replaced throttle cables new carb to airbox rubbers , carbs snap shut with engine off soon as engine running blip throttle and carbs will not shut off any ideas please ?? Standard 26mm carbs on Z1000

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#5 PostAuthor: Taffus » Sat May 11, 2013 6:30 pm

I think you need an alligator sandwich... that's definitely snappy :D
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#6 PostAuthor: floydsz1 » Sat May 11, 2013 7:22 pm

I'm getting simular probs with mine. Starts up and ticks over/revs fine but when it gets hot the revs take a while to drop back to tickover, sometimes staying at 3000rpm, Ive fitted new inlet rubbers (so no air leaks) and new jets/needles etc have been fitted.
Was thinking maybe its the float heights. All cables etc are free etc.
Might be worth sending my carbs away to someone for cleaning and setting up,
any ideas anyone.
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#7 PostAuthor: Taffus » Sat May 11, 2013 8:43 pm

had the same on my GPz 1100 carb conversion and yes, it it was float heights. somehow :roll: I had added a 1mm to the height from the carb base to the floats (carbs inverted) corrected this and the hang was gone....
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#8 PostAuthor: steve bowdler » Sun May 12, 2013 6:32 am

OK will check float heights today :?? , it is a start !

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#9 PostAuthor: steve bowdler » Mon May 13, 2013 8:34 am

Come on all you carb guru's any more ideas ??

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#10 PostAuthor: KeithZ1R » Mon May 13, 2013 10:09 am

Probably too obvious Steve but have you checked all the slides are at the same height when shut ? only pointing this out cos I had mine off and apart recently but didnt check em before I put em back, same symptoms as your goodself :oops: when i checked one of em was a good half mil+ higher when shut some small adjustment from the top so they all had the 2mm gap (on mine) at the inlet throat cut out problem solved
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#11 PostAuthor: njwmct » Mon May 13, 2013 12:27 pm

Steve, had the same problem on my Mark 2 - turned out to be unequal slide heights.
As a 1st step I set the gap at the bottom of each slide with a 0.7mm dia. wire - then balanced up the carbs with vacuum gauges & the problem was solved.

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#12 PostAuthor: z1aphil » Mon May 13, 2013 7:33 pm

I don't know if these couple of sites may be of help.
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http://www.mikuni.com/pdf/vmmanual.pdf
http://www.iwt.com.au/mikunicarb.htm

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#13 PostAuthor: DogsbolloxofZ1B » Mon May 13, 2013 9:37 pm

Steve,
Give me a call. 07515 367071

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#14 PostAuthor: Pigford » Tue May 14, 2013 6:31 am

Taffus wrote:had the same on my GPz 1100 carb conversion and yes, it it was float heights. somehow :roll: I had added a 1mm to the height from the carb base to the floats (carbs inverted) corrected this and the hang was gone....


Interesting - but I'm surprised that made any difference - especially as it would lean the mix out slightly :|
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#15 PostAuthor: tricky » Tue May 14, 2013 9:00 am

hi, carbs will need to be mechanicaly balanced, there is an important measurement between the throttle cable quadrant and the cable guide, this must be correct first, then mechanicaly balance the carbs as per manual, then once back on the bike, check balance with vaccume gauges if you want
hope this helps tricky.


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