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z900 A4 uk frame/v5

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:23 am
Author: timyoungman
The DVLA are messing me about so i'm looking for a UK registered 900 a4 /a5 frame and v5. if anyone has one for sale please pm me. thanks.
tim.

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:27 am
Author: Jay1969
Hi Tim,
I will let you know as soon as / if I see one for sale on eBay.

Good luck.

DVLA NOVA

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:39 am
Author: timyoungman
Thanks.

There is a new system in place at DVLA. All local offices DVLA are closing in November and ( since July 22nd 2013 ) we now need to register bikes thru Swansea and (if its an import) the NOVA system must be used.

I am going to get onto HMRC next week to ask what happens when a "barn find" is restored. Why do I need to pay VAT if there's no proof it's an import...blah blah, blah...

Easier just to get a new frame me thinks !!

It all just seems to be another form of "Stealth Tax" from the people WE ELECT to run OUR COUNTRY....and rip us off while they fly about in helicopters...rant rant rant......

ta v much.

:wink:

sent to hmrc.

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:36 am
Author: timyoungman
HM Revenue & Customs
VAT Written Enquiries Team
4th Floor, Alexander House
Victoria Avenue
Southend-On-Sea
Essex
SS99 1BD


Dear Sir,

Kawasaki Motorcycle VIN Number Z1F-51311X. NOVA scheme.

I am trying to register this bike. I do not believe it is liable for VAT under the NOVA scheme as it is a bike bought in the UK as a “barn findâ€￾ for spares/repairs/restoration. It was built in 1977 and was left in a shed in Yorkshire for many years until I pulled it out and restored it earlier this year. (copy of receipt attached) I have spent the last 3 months restoring it and have obtained a dating certificate from the Vintage Japanese Motorcycle Owners Club (copy attached.) I am now asking Kawasaki for the same dating information confirming the year of manufacture as 1977.

I understand that you are able to check any information you might hold on your CHIEF database to confirm whether or not this bike has been imported. If so could you please do so and let me know the situation ?

I purchased this bike in a private sale, in good faith, believing it to be a UK bike with lost paperwork, due to it’s age, condition and length of time off the road. There are many bikes like this lying around in sheds in the UK. It would seem unfair for HMRC to charge additional VAT on bikes that have been left for many years and then restored by enthusiasts.

Your advice and assistance would be appreciated.

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:49 am
Author: malmojoe
Good luck Tim, be interesting to hear what they say.

nova

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 11:02 am
Author: timyoungman
thanks. i will post any reply i get...

ps....I found a site today that tells me some scooter owners are very unhappy !!

http://www.scootering.com/news/dvla-hmrc-nova

:xbou

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 11:35 am
Author: wilsonsjw11
How are they are asking for a NOVA(notification of vehicle arrival) number when it was not imported from the EU.The NOVA system is designed to pick up on vehicles imported by our Eastern European friends and close the tax loophole they were enjoying i.e cars being cheaper to purchase over there.
A NOVA number is not required for a vehicle imported from outside of the EU.
Regards
Steve

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:34 pm
Author: ogre
keep us posted as i am goin to have same problem with my z1a

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:31 pm
Author: timyoungman
the letter is in the post... I expected this when i bought the bike and it's worth trying to sort out as there must be hundreds of people in a similar situation....

If all else fails maybe I ask for a "Q" plate ...if they still exist...and then buy a personalised "R" reg plate later ???

The saga continues...

I will keep you posted...

Long Live Barn Finds!! lol.

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:02 pm
Author: Jay1969
timyoungman wrote:the letter is in the post... I expected this when i bought the bike and it's worth trying to sort out as there must be hundreds of people in a similar situation....

If all else fails maybe I ask for a "Q" plate ...if they still exist...and then buy a personalised "R" reg plate later ???

The saga continues...

I will keep you posted...

Long Live Barn Finds!! lol.

I have to say, you can't re-register a Q plate with a personalised number plate.
Wait until a frame with a V5 is for sale is the safest bet.

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:44 pm
Author: timyoungman
yepper.

I think that's the best bet for now...Got loads more to be getting on with so it goes to the back of the queue. I got it MOT'd/insured thinking I could go to the local DVLA office and sort it out, but I was 2 weeks too late. :cry:

I am told DVLA were trying to get Quick Fit to take over the registration process to save ££ but Quick Fit said no ....

Pain in the bum but i'll sort it.....

Thanks again.... :)

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:25 pm
Author: neilbarrett
j browse had one last time I rang him for a z900,£500

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:41 pm
Author: hillbilly
£500 would own mine to. :lol: but people wont pay that much.

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:51 pm
Author: freddyz1r
Jay1969 wrote:
timyoungman wrote:the letter is in the post... I expected this when i bought the bike and it's worth trying to sort out as there must be hundreds of people in a similar situation....

If all else fails maybe I ask for a "Q" plate ...if they still exist...and then buy a personalised "R" reg plate later ???

The saga continues...

I will keep you posted...

Long Live Barn Finds!! lol.

I have to say, you can't re-register a Q plate with a personalised number plate.
Wait until a frame with a V5 is for sale is the safest bet.

Jays right tim.If it go's onto a 'Q' plate = it stays on that 'Q' plate.

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:09 pm
Author: RB
I seem to remember warning of this some time ago :roll: - I have little doubt that you will be seeing a HUGE increase In "Q" Plates :??